http://www.deadspin.com/sports/baseball/so...ames-179400.php<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>First: The person who told Grimsley about the positive test in 2003. That?s former Royals general manager Allard Baird.As many people have guessed, one of the ?former players? who were sold out by Grimsley: Sammy Sosa. Our source(s) couldn?t confirm if the other was Rafael Palmeiro.Nothing new or exciting about that name. Then it starts to get interesting. We?ve heard amphetamine rumors of Miguel Tejada, but we can?t confirm that. What we can confirm? The doozy.Grimsley says that a former employee of [redacted] and personal fitness trainer to several Major League Baseball players once referred him to an amphetamine source. Later, this source ? not the trainer ? provided him with ?amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormone.? This trainer? His name is Chris Mihlfeld, a Kansas City-based ?strength and conditioning guru.? (And former Strength And Conditioning Coordinator for the Royals.)Does Mihlfeld?s name sound familiar? If it doesn?t, he ? and we assure you, this gives us no pleasure to write this ? has been Albert Pujols? personal trainer since before Pujols was drafted by the Cardinals in the 13th round of the 1999 draft. We have no confirmation that Pujols? name is in the affidavit ? but Mihlfeld?s is. If you read the document, it doesn?t say the trainer/Mihlfeld supplied all the HGH and what-not; it just says the trainer was the referrer.Yeah. Sigh. We just report what we?re told, folks. Ever hope your source is wrong? This is one of those times.</div>
So it's not a direct link, but it's his personal trainer.Remember though, that Barry Bonds was never proven to have used steroids, but that his personal trainer was shown to have supplied steroids. <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">So essentially, the same amount of proof shown vs Barry Bonds is now shown vs Albert Pujols.</span>
SI weighs in:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Baseball's latest steroids scandal is now in full-blown, screaming 72-point type. Pitcher Jason Grimsley, caught with a box full of human growth hormone, rolled over for federal investigators in a two-hour interrogation on April 19, and the new game in and around baseball is trying to figure out all the names he named.So in an effort to further this story that won't go away, here's a name for you: Chris Mihlfeld."I figured my name would get thrown out there somewhere," Mihlfeld told me from his Kansas City-area gym on Thursday.Maybe you've never heard of Mihlfeld. He's not a player. He doesn't work for Major League Baseball or any of its teams, not anymore. But Mihlfeld is a player in the game, a personal trainer to the biggest star in the game: Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols, currently on the disabled list with a strained right oblique. Mihlfeld also has close ties to Royals slugger Mike Sweeney.At least one website fairly well-known in sports circles suggests that Mihlfeld is the personal trainer whose name has been redacted from page 14 of the affidavit that details Grimsley's talk with IRS Criminal Investigations special agent Jeff Novitzky. A paragraph of that page reads, in part, as follows:"Grimsley stated that [blacked out], a former employee of the [blacked out] and personal fitness trainer to several Major League Baseball players, once referred him to an amphetamine source. Grimsley stated that after this referral he secured amphetamines, anabolic steroids, and human growth hormone from [blacked out] referred source."Mihlfeld served as a scout for the Royals and was their strength-and-conditioning coordinator as recently as 2004. He also has worked in minor league capacities for the Dodgers and the Devil Rays. He helped Grimsley rehabilitate last year after Tommy John surgery."I know Jason Grimsley very well," Mihlfeld said. "And I have only two statements to make. One, Jason Grimsley is still my good friend. And two, I've never been involved in any illegal steroids, amphetamines or HGH activity. Period."Publicly, at least, nobody is yet claiming that Mihlfeld has done anything wrong. Certainly, nobody should be making the leap that he or Pujols or Sweeney are guilty of anything. Right now it's speculation on a website, talk in chat rooms and whispers in clubhouses. A lot of "what if?" and "do you think?" and "could it be?"And let's get this straight: Even if that is Mihlfeld's name under the black ink on page 14 of Novitzky's affidavit, that's a long way from his being charged, let alone convicted, of anything. Grimsley's statement said the personal trainer in question merely referred him to a source for amphetamines, not supplied him with them.But the whispers are out there already, the suspicions are raised. Sweeney, who has conducted clinics at Mihlfeld's gym and withstood rumors about alleged steroid use for years, faced reporters again on Wednesday and, again, strongly denied ever using performance-enhancing drugs."I'll put my hand on the Bible or my children's [head]," Sweeney said. "I know I've never taken any steroids, any performance-enhancing drugs or any growth hormones."The connections between Mihlfeld and Sweeney, between Mihlfeld and Pujols and between Grimsley and just about everyone he ever played with already are being made. Mihlfeld's ready to head it all off."He's just like me," Mihlfeld said of his friend Pujols, whom he signed to play at Maple Woods Community College in Kansas City when Mihlfeld was head coach there in the late 1990s. "He's got nothing to hide."That may well be true. Let's hope, for Mihlfeld's sake and for Pujols' sake -- heck, for the sake of baseball and everybody who ever has taken a little bit of enjoyment in watching it -- that it is.</div>
Unlike Bonds, Pujols is not a prick. I will believe him until he is caught, even though he is a Cardinal, and I would like to believe otherwise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jun 10 2006, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">So essentially, the same amount of proof shown vs Barry Bonds is now shown vs Albert Pujols.</span></div>I didnt see any leaked testamony where Albert Pujols admits to 'unknown' steroids use. I didnt see any ex-girlfriends of Pujols where she claims he confided in her that they used steroids.I dont see visual signs such as the extreme rapid body growth Not to mention since when does Deadspin actually have any credibility?And just because one of Albert Pujols's trainers has steroids doesnt necessairily mean that Pujols has used them. Not saying Pujols isnt on steroids, but the situations are very different.
I hope he is so then the entire baseball community will shut up, sit down, and actually think of something to do about it or just legalize it period.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Jun 10 2006, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hope he is so then the entire baseball community will shut up, sit down, and actually think of something to do about it or just legalize it period.</div>Nice
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='52202' date='Jun 10 2006, 09:36 AM']I didnt see any leaked testamony where Albert Pujols admits to 'unknown' steroids use.[/quote]Because he hasn't been forced to testify yet. Yeah, because that's credible. Just like the more than a dozen girls who claimed Bill Clinton cheated on Hilary with them with them weren't doing it for their 15 minutes of fame, right? That's because he's been using them since before he was even in the minors Credible enough for Jim Rome, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick to quote them as a source. Same for Bonds. Not really they aren't.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not to mention since when does Deadspin actually have any credibility?</div>Credible enough for Jim Rome, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick to quote them as a source.</div>And since when do the 3 biggest gossip reporters in sports have any credibility?Point is there is a shitload of writeing on the wall on Bonds, for Pujols there is one article without any shred of credibility to it. Whats next? Is the National Enquirer going to report that Ryan Howard is on steroids too?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 10 2006, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not to mention since when does Deadspin actually have any credibility?</div>Credible enough for Jim Rome, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick to quote them as a source.</div>And since when do the 3 biggest gossip reporters in sports have any credibility?Point is there is a shitload of writeing on the wall on Bonds, for Pujols there is one article without any shred of credibility to it. Whats next? Is the National Enquirer going to report that Ryan Howard is on steroids too?</div>Sports Illustrated isn't credible now? Come on now, just cause you like the guy doesn't change the fact that he's linked to Steroids.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='52260' date='Jun 10 2006, 11:22 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='52255' date='Jun 10 2006, 12:07 PM'] And since when do the 3 biggest gossip reporters in sports have any credibility?Point is there is a shitload of writeing on the wall on Bonds, for Pujols there is one article without any shred of credibility to it. Whats next? Is the National Enquirer going to report that Ryan Howard is on steroids too?[/quote]Sports Illustrated isn't credible now? Come on now, just cause you like the guy doesn't change the fact that he's linked to Steroids.[/quote]It's not a fact though.All this proves is that Grimsley has ties to [blacked out] and they are speculating that Mr. [blacked out] is Mihfield who has a link with Pujols. Even your SI article said this I didnt realize any loser could get a blog and write a bunch of things that may or may not be true and have that automatically be considered a fact.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='52263' date='Jun 10 2006, 12:31 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='52260' date='Jun 10 2006, 11:22 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='52255' date='Jun 10 2006, 12:07 PM'] And since when do the 3 biggest gossip reporters in sports have any credibility?Point is there is a shitload of writeing on the wall on Bonds, for Pujols there is one article without any shred of credibility to it. Whats next? Is the National Enquirer going to report that Ryan Howard is on steroids too?[/quote]Sports Illustrated isn't credible now? Come on now, just cause you like the guy doesn't change the fact that he's linked to Steroids.[/quote]It's not a fact though.All this proves is that Grimsley has ties to [blacked out] and they are speculating that Mr. [blacked out] is Mihfield who has a link with Pujols. Even your SI article said this I didnt realize any loser could get a blog and write a bunch of things that may or may not be true and have that automatically be considered a fact. [/quote]It's a connection that's being widely reported on sports radio. Obviously it's more credible than you give it credit for.
Let me ask you this Adrop. Although not proven yet, you still accuse Bonds of steroid use. But in Puljos' case you don't believe there is a link and it is not proven. I think your just siding that he isn't because you like him and don't like Bonds.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jun 10 2006, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let me ask you this Adrop. Although not proven yet, you still accuse Bonds of steroid use. But in Puljos' case you don't believe there is a link and it is not proven. I think your just siding that he isn't because you like him and don't like Bonds.</div>Actually, I cant stand Pujols. But when theres a shitload of 'circumstancial evidence' on the wall against Bonds. Such as....-2 books on Bonds using steroids.-Bonds only sueing the books for the money profited from the books, not the content of it.-His ex-girlfriend saying he was on steroids-His leaked grand jury testamony-His visual body growth-His famous outbreaks at the media (Roid-Rage?)You have to realize that it is the truth after the while because it would be one amazing slew of coincidences should it not be the case.With Pujols there is no such thing. With Pujols there is one article on a not-exactly credible blog (Probably started by a Cubs fan). And a follow up article on SI reporting the 'rumor', and then quickly dispelling it by saying that...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Certainly, nobody should be making the leap that he or Pujols or Sweeney are guilty of anything. Right now it's speculation on a website, talk in chat rooms and whispers in clubhouses. A lot of "what if?" and "do you think?" and "could it be?"</div>Dont get me wrong, im not saying Albert Pujols is clean. I am saying that this little article is not enough to go out there and accuse the man of using steroids or to even say that he is linked to steroids.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='52394' date='Jun 10 2006, 08:57 PM']With Pujols there is no such thing.[/quote]No body growth in someone who's been using for years befor he was ever in the pros. Dont get me wrong, im not saying Albert Pujols is clean. I am saying that this little article is not enough to go out there and accuse the man of using steroids or to even say that he is linked to steroids.[/quote]I'm not saying he's dirty, but he is linked to Steroids.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No body growth in someone who's been using for years befor he was ever in the pros.</div>If that was the case, he would have gone well before the 30-something-th round in the MLB Draft.
He went 13th round. Still kinda low but if you think about it from 99 to 06, that's 7 years to gradually pump up your body. He's only gotten much better every year and started his career out quite strong.
