Exclusive All Things Scoot

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  1. Predator

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    I was being a dick, of course you didn’t say that lol
     
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    I think Ja will maintain the title of most athletic PG
     
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    He doesn't have a great chance of being in the league next season. Scoot is stronger. I'd like to see their combine #s.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Scoot is built like a 6’3” Ben Wallace
     
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    Dude looks like a star if he falls to us I hope some team offers us a king's ransom for him.

    If we want to keep him I hope some team offers us a king's ransom for Dame.
     
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    I think Scoot/Sharpe is gonna be a lot more successful team wise than Dame/CJ was. Yeah I think we are taking him after seeing some of that workout.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Built like Kawhi
     
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    I've been doing more and more research on the kid, and I'm all in.

    What can we give Charlotte to climb to #2? I don't want to miss this kid even if he's going to be Dame's understudy in the OKC Harden role for 3 yrs.

    He's got Dame's killer instinct with Westbrook's tenacity and vision, with Derrick Rose's killer midrange. Also think he's going to be an absolute foul magnet in the league once he learns to manipulate the game a bit.

    This is a can't miss PG prospect. He will have an immediate impact on the right team in the right role and seems like he has the chops to be a franchise player. I really hope Charlotte is dumb enough to pass on him. Also hope we are not dumb enough to take 20 yr old who barely played above average ball against 16 yr olds in a no-name league over this potential superstar.
     
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    So are you cancelling the petition?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    here's a framework: Screen Shot 2023-06-04 at 12.05.09 AM.png


    We absolutely HAVE to land someone like Naz Reid or a top tier C with our MLE and then bring back Thybulle with his bird rights.


    Dame (24) / Scoot (24)
    Sharpe (32) / Dame (8) / Scoot (8)
    OG (30) / Thybulle (18)
    Grant (30) / Watford (18)
    Carter Jr. (30)/ MLE (18)

    I think that team competes for a top 6 seed if it all goes right in year 1. It is probably the only way to fulfill the dreaded two timeline mindset but we'd need buy in from Chauncey to build experience for Scoot and Shaedon along the way and not pull what Kerr did with Wiseman/Kuminga.

    All this is pending Charlotte's thought process in liking Miller more than Scoot.
     
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    I hope we get Scoot! Yeah watching him more I'm worried we'll deeply regret trading him for Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges or Pascal Siakam. Looks like he'll be on another level and sooner than many expect.

    I'm fine if we add him with Dame/Ant too. Sharpe is totally tall enough at SF, and between injuries/rest for Dame and development of Scoot that 3 guard rotation would keep everyone fresh. That would allow us to put better defenders with less offensive skill such as Thybulle or sign Dillon Brooks and have them balance out the rotation. Yeah I know many here would probably hate it.

    I hate the idea of trading away Ant, not being a contender, then possibly deciding we need to pivot and rebuild anyways so trading away Dame. Meanwhile Ant is making allstar teams elsewhere and/or Scoot doesn't fulfil his potential.
     
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    I don't like a Scoot/Ant backcourt defensively. Scoot/Sharpe as the future is a lot more enticing. Turning Ant a two-way wing is not a bad idea. OG is still only 25.
     
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    just like CJ
     
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    OG age is fine but his knees are damaged, the guy is injured very often. Yeah I can understand if we are trying to contend next year maybe flip Ant for him. Ant has a better long term future IMO. Plus we probably have to throw in a pick to the deal, as well as open the bank for OG next summer.

    Ant Scoot plus another rookie is way more exciting than Scoot OG.

    I'm not saying we can't explore any Ant trades - but I'd probably prefer to get a few picks and a lesser player if ultimately it makes more sense to trade him.

    Part of my point of keeping Ant though - is the long term uncertainty of Dame as well as the uncertainty of a rookie (even though I love Scoot)
     
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    OG is just an example.

    More interested in a Scoot/Sharpe backcourt 3 yrs from now entering all star territory.
     
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    While I think Ant and OG are similar in terms of value and talent, and even understand that Ant has a higher ceiling, we need to think of things in terms of fit. Despite his flaws, OG is a much better fit since we need a point of attack defender. Ant is not a fit with what this team needs to do. We need defense. Not just now, but for the future. OG can play with the younger guys for years to come.
     
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    I go back and forth on who Charlotte will take.
    If we can get Scoot then I would love to get OG for Ant. (and realistically # 23)
    If we take Amen I think we should keep Ant as we will need to surround him with shooters
    If we take Miller then I am not sure if we should re-sign Grant. We would desperately need a rebounder at the 4.
     
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    If CHA takes Scoot, I want us to :

    - Find a trade for the best all star available who fits.

    - trade down for assets and a pick that can land us Whitmore.

    I want nothing to do with Amen and am still lukewarm on Miller.
     
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    If Dame stays we need to resign Grant if we can get value for him in a trade when he is eligible. Regardless if we get Scoot or Miller. If we can't get value in a trade then yes, let him go. I think Miller will be a star also, not just Scoot. But I see keeping Grant for another season while Miller learns, if we get him. I too have no idea which way Charlotte will go. I would love to know what the front office thought of the twins only as a possible trade with Orlando. So many possibilities.
     
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    Yeah, good point about adding a trade asset with Grant. But we can't go crazy with how much we pay him or it could be tougher to trade him
     
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