For this one,I'd say Allen Iverson,I was on Nba.comPPG 33.0 RPG 3.2 APG 7.4 SPG 1.94 BPG .14 FG% .447 FT% .814 3P% .323 MPG 43.1
i can honestly say that this isn't even a good comparison. Iverson is a superstar, Pierce is a star. Iverson is a much better scorer, although Pierce is better at other things. Iverson's scoring is just too much of an edge. The heart is a stalemate, both are great leaders, both are tough as nails. They are both very consistent. AI is just a way better scorer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 6 2006, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i can honestly say that this isn't even a good comparison. Iverson is a superstar, Pierce is a star. Iverson is a much better scorer, although Pierce is better at other things. Iverson's scoring is just too much of an edge. The heart is a stalemate, both are great leaders, both are tough as nails. They are both very consistent. AI is just a way better scorer.</div>Yea,I just compared them because of the trade idea ..
Iverson passed his prime..Pierce is in it right now..we have to wait till Pierce passes to compare..but right now Allen Iverson (althought PP is my favorite player) just because he was able to lead his team to the finals without helpand he is a better scorer..like someone said tho..Pierce is better at other things though like rebounding and free throwsbut because of their height difference its hard to compare
Iverson is not past his prime. He's putting up career numbers, but it just is not translating into team success because of our team's lack of defensive intensity. I would say Iverson is in his prime right now, and Pierce is just entering his...I'm taking Iverson in a heartbeat, but he only has two or three more good years left in him (meaning how he's playing now) before he starts slowing down. Pierce is younger, and Boston should be a pain in the ass once the young players develop, but I don't see Pierce having a better career than Iverson unless he somehow wins a ring in Boston.
I don't really get the comparasin since the only real thing they have in common is team loyalty and consistency but I would go with AI in a heartbeat. He's just slightly on a different level than Pierce and I don't really feel i have to explain why. BTW playaofthegame yes actually AI is still in his prime. He has had career years now two seasons in a row. I don't see how he could not be in his prime after having a season where he averaged 33 ppg and 7.4 apg.
good point..i just felt his best season was when he led philly to the finals...i thought that was when he was in his prime but I guess you guys feel differently..oh well its all about opinion
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Aug 6 2006, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>good point..i just felt his best season was when he led philly to the finals...i thought that was when he was in his prime but I guess you guys feel differently..oh well its all about opinion</div>Yeah, that was the best team season of his career, but it was hardly his best individual season (although he did win the MVP award). He's in his prime individually, but unfortunately the roster is so full of holes, and the franchise is strapped financially (thank you Billy King) so it does not translate into wins.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Aug 7 2006, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Iverson passed his prime..Pierce is in it right now..we have to wait till Pierce passes to compare..but right now Allen Iverson (althought PP is my favorite player) just because he was able to lead his team to the finals without helpand he is a better scorer..like someone said tho..Pierce is better at other things though like rebounding and free throwsbut because of their height difference its hard to compare</div> Yeah, Iverson is past his prime...considering he put up the best numbers of his career last season.
Just want to clear things up. AI is a much better scorer than Pierce? No. Iverson - 33.0 ppg on 25.3 shots per game Pierce - 26.8 ppg on 18.5 shots per game Give Pierce 25 shots a night he would score 30-35 ppg too. Just wanted to clear that up. Pierce has the better all around game and is more of a professional. And he practices lol. But AI's career is better than Pierce's. AI has taken practically nothing to the NBA Finals. He has been MVP, All-Star MVP, #1 pick, Rookie of the Year, etc. He has more heart than anyone I have ever seen, and he's the toughest player I have ever seen pound for pound. Allen Iverson is the best player to ever play the game 6'0'' and under. No question. Yes, that includes Isiah. Iverson > Pierce EDIT: typo
Those stats don't show that Iverson isn't a BETTER scorer than Pierce... it just shows Pierce is a more EFFICIENT scorer than Iverson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Aug 7 2006, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Those stats don't show that Iverson isn't a BETTER scorer than Pierce... it just shows Pierce is a more EFFICIENT scorer than Iverson. </div> Yeah, I know, which shows Iverson is not a better scorer. Iverson scored 6 more ppg than Pierce last year on about 7 more shots per game, and also plays 4 more minutes a night. All I was saying is "give Pierce 7 extra shots a game his scoring average would be exactly where Iverson's is." Not to mention Pierce is a better outside shooter than Iverson. I mean don't get me wrong, AI is fearless and yes is easily one of the best scorers of the past decade, but to say he's a better scorer than Pierce is very arguable, and untrue in my opinion. Either one can dominate a game and either one can basically score 35-40 on any given night. They both score in different ways, but Pierce is more efficient and has better percentages, and is still putting up 27 a night on 6 less shots a game than Iverson.
The way I look at it... efficiency doesn't necessarily make him better. Also, yeah, Pierce may be a more efficient scorer, but AI has been doing it for 10 years... is 6 to 7 inches shorter (i.e. more difficult to shoot over people). But hey, we both have our own opinions.Either way, both are tremendous players, but I don't see Pierce having a better career than Iverson (as we both have acknowledged).
Agree with Big MO About:"Iverson is not past his prime. He's putting up career numbers, but it just is not translating into team success because of our team's lack of defensive intensity. I would say Iverson is in his prime right now, and Pierce is just entering his..."And it was not fair to compare since Pierce is a star, and AI is a super star.
Their discrepancy in their scoring numbers can be attributed to Iverson getting more minutes a game, and tossing up more shots a game. Pierce is just as good of a scorer, IMO, has better percentages, and is a much better rebounder. They both defend guys their size equally as well. In the end though, I think Iverson's playmaking abilities outweigh Pierce's rebounding edge. You just can't choose against a guy who can make everyone on the floor around him that much better like Iverson does.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jan 14 2007, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Their discrepancy in their scoring numbers can be attributed to Iverson getting more minutes a game, and tossing up more shots a game. Pierce is just as good of a scorer, IMO, has better percentages, and is a much better rebounder. They both defend guys their size equally as well. In the end though, I think Iverson's playmaking abilities outweigh Pierce's rebounding edge. You just can't choose against a guy who can make everyone on the floor around him that much better like Iverson does.</div>Yep I am not hating on Pierce I no problem with him at all he cool. I actually think he should leave Boston to win a title since the gm is not doing anything to put enough around him to win now. But they do have young talent so not like they doing nothing.I just said you can't real compare a star to a super star.
