Alternative Qb rating article.

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  1. huevonkiller

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    Yes this is one of those stat-fest posts, sorry about that people. :p This is just for reference in future discussions, etc. I like to have other alternatives to try to measure efficiency. Pro-football-reference also does a decent job at this.

    I found an article that tries to weigh QB efficiency and also found a chart of the top Seasons/Careers in the modern era. Basically, "DVOA" is the standard to measure value per pass, and "DYAR" is a volume based statistic which favors more attempts.

    I'll post two articles, one is the top seasons by way of DVOA/DYAR, and then the second article below is an explanation of how DVOA/DYAR was derived. I left the DYAR chart/explanation out of this post, so just click on the links to decipher that.

    (modified slightly from article to make it easier to understand)
    Top 8 QB Seasons by Passing DVOA, 1995-2007, 300+ Passes
    Peyton Manning 2004 DVOA = 60.9%
    Tom Brady 2007 DVOA = 56.9%
    Peyton Manning 2006 DVOA = 51.0%
    Randall Cunningham 1998 DVOA = 42.8%
    Peyton Manning 2007 DVOA = 40.6%
    Chad Pennington 2002 DVOA = 40.6%
    Peyton Manning 2005 DVOA = 40.4%
    Vinny Testaverde 1998 DVOA = 39.8%
    David Garrard 2007 DVOA = 37.4%
    John Elway 1998 DVOA = 37.3%

    Source: Football Outsiders

    Source: Football Outsiders
     
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    No Brett Favre on there. Something must be wrong! :p

    Speaking of that, funny to see Pennington on there.
     
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    Yeah it is a pass per value table, that adjusts for the type of defense one faced.

    Pro-football-reference has the best blogs for empirical discussions though, I visit them the most for that sort of thing. I'll dig up some of their own conclusions about winning correlation later. I personally think they're better than the source I provided. :]

    I can't read through too much of this stat crap though, it is tedious. Haha.
     
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    Chad Pennington does have the highest pass percentage in NFL history.

    Basically, he can't throw past 20 yards, so he just does a whole bunch of dump offs which results in pretty stats and a mediocre actual game but he has no arm so he can't win his team a game, but vice versa
     

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