Isn't it pretty darn obvious? The Vulcans, Paul Allen, and Larry Miller just saw it before we did - Roy gets an extension, and a 5th year, on knees that don't deserve it Oden really is injury-prone Buying late 1st rounders like Rudy and Sergio was a waste of money And KP and Penn's agent acted questionably... Finally, it all makes sense.
KP was removed from the Roy negotiations. The Vulcans/Larry Miller signed that deal. Miller said as much last week on BFT. Nice thread ... get your facts straight next time.
Last I heard, Paul Allen has the final say on contracts. I am pretty sure he signed on the deal, and if he did not want to - he would not have.
KP needs to clear moves by management. They are just as responsible for Roy's extension on his bad knees. Just as responsible for shelling out money for late firsts.
You can acquire wealth in three main ways: slow and safe, quick and risky, or ridiculously lucky. Think of it like bonds, stocks, and the powerball, respectively. KP invested picks and trades and PA's $3mil chunks in stocks, which is fine, but he found value in the same sector pretty much every time: high injury risk players with tons of talent. In the case of LMA and Batum, it worked out okay (mostly). But the Big Investments - Roy and Oden - are busts. Overall, KP lost more than he won in the stock market, even going so far as to invest lottery winnings in risky stocks. When they blew up, his Business Plan started looking more like a Get Rich Quick scheme.
you never deigned to tell us why in a coherent manner though. I mean seriously, a lot of you "trolls" are turning out to be right, but if you write like you're 14 year olds, nobody is going to listen to you.
Imaginary Cap Space. He built no depth. Too close to his "boys". Addition by subtraction. 2008 plan. RLEC. All failures.
Sorry but I still go back to this very simple concept, B ROY knew his knees were shot and he said nothing!! Had Roy come in and said ya know my knees feel worse every year and the thought of dunking the ball makes me cringe..... do ya think he'd have gotten a max contract? NOW WAY IN RISE WITH US! Remember this is the same guy that was afraid of the MRI machine cause it made him claustrophobic, right? Also the only machine that would have shown that he had no meniscus in either knee. Management just looks FOOOLISHHHHHHHH here, Roy looks like he pulled a fast one. For years I wondered why can't Roy get down the court very fast, he's only 23,24,25. Now it all makes sense! Ever notice for a guy his age how rarely he dunks? BONE ON BONE is why! Has to hurt!
Well, it was imaginary in large part because Chris Wallace and Michael Heisley blatantly fucked over the Blazers. I hope Darius sues their ass someday for making his knees worse, all to screw over the Blazers.
You posted this nonsense yesterday repeatedly, and nobody agree with it. Is this going to become a daily thing until somebody bites? Did Roy decide to make 3rd-team All-NBA and the All-Star game last year AFTER signing his extension to throw us all off of his master and diabolical plan? He's a genius!
Well Papa, that's the 3rd time you've posted that in about 2 days. No one has had the time to answer you. You've gotten away with it so far. Each time you have admitted that Pritchard screwed up the Roy negotiation so badly that he, supposedly the GM, was ignominiously fired from negotiating a player contract, the Roy project. You feel that it somehow follows from that fact, that he's innocent of how badly the contract turned out. Obviously, the response to you in a nutshell should be that Pritchard's errors were irretrievable. He destroyed the team's negotiating position and no one (Larry Miller or Paul Allen) could have put Humpty Dumpty back together. If you lack the temperament to negotiate with GMs, you probably can't with players, either. His lack of willingness to negotiate was the common cause behind his lack of trading activity over the years, and behind his refusal to play hardball in his first real negotiation with a player, Roy. He was unable to make trades (he got GMs mad by attempting the humiliating Pritchslap every time--that's why RLEC failed in the last day) and had never seriously bargained with players (the roster was mostly unnegotiated standard scale rookie contracts, and he just overpaid the rest, like Webster's $4M per year). As I've posted for years, his only talent was as a smiling face, dropping little rumors to the media to market fan interest. He was untested at most parts of the GM job, a flim flam man who had the town conned that he was the best GM in the league. When he was canned from the Roy project, time was short and neither Larry Miller nor Paul Allen had time to start over from scratch, and build a negotiating framework so late in the game, with offers, counteroffers, and fallback positions. Refusing to negotiate, Pritchard then told the Oregonian that Roy deserved the maximum, which ensured fan ire if any real negotiation had been attempted after he was taken off the project. He got fired for Pritchslapping Paul Allen.
The bottom-line on the Roy extension is that Paul Allen, Larry Miller, and the anonymous Vulcans approved of it. Since neither of us have the internal dialogue on any negotiations, other than your rather elaborate speculation (and mine, should I have chosen to offer it), the default fact has to be that Paul Allen ultimately signed off on the contract, regardless of any biased and uninformed opinions we may have of what led up to the signing of the extension. What you're doing is scapegoating and making excuses, which is a valid opinion, but I'm not sure it effectively explains Roy's max contract.
