Antoine Walker to GS for Nick Van Exel

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  1. Johnny33

    Johnny33 JBB JustBBall Member

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    GS just signed Derek Fisher, which gives them 3 potential starting PG's... Odd man out should be Nick Van Exel because of his big contract. Dallas needs a PG, Van Exel knows their offense.

    thoughts? discuss. :mrgreen:
     
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    I ran it by RealGM's trade checker and it came through ok.

    However, I don't like the trade for either team.

    Seems like you'd be trading off a terrible contract for another.

    No one wants Walker because of his terrible contract and questionable shot selections. The Warriors already have Murphy at PF, and he's a better player than Walker.

    As for Van Exel, his best days are behind him.
     
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    I would not do this trade because it does not benefit the Warriors except for getting rid of a PG. Who cares, let him stay on the bench and we can trade him to a contender by the trading deadline. When does Walkers contract expire? If next year like NVE, I would do it. But otherwise, that leaves us with a fat contract and a player we do not want...
     
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    Walker is in the last year of his contract, 14 million off the books and he's good trade bait at the trade deadline.

    Walker can play SF, which is actually the position he should be playing because he always sits his ass outside the 3 point line.

    Dallas would probably love to swap Walker for Van Exel. He played well for them a couple seasons ago and if he doesn't work out the 2nd time around, they can just let him go at the end of the season. At the very least they trade a 50% free throw shooting PF for a 80+% free throw shooter who plays a position they need filled.

    Not sure if Golden State would want Walker though.
     
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    I agree with Johnny33. Ill take just about anybody for Walker and Bradley. Why dont we bundle them in a trade for somebody [​IMG].
     
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    It'd never happen. Chris Mullin is running the team now, and he has a pretty clear vision of what players he wants. He got Derek Fisher, resigned Foyle, tried to get Brent Barry, and drafted Latvian F/C Andris Biedrens. The common theme is they're all hard working, smart, versatile players who are excellent defenders. Antoine Walker posesses none of those qualities. In fact, I was suprised the Mavericks traded Jamison. I always felt he was the more talented, more intelligent of the two players. WHen he realized his three point shot wasn't consistant enough, he used it more sparingly. Walker just started taking more of them.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting johnny33:</div><div class="quote_post">Walker is in the last year of his contract, 14 million off the books and he's good trade bait at the trade deadline.

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    If this is true, I would trade Walker for NVE straight up! That would clear some of the log jam at PG. Walker can literally play any position on the court. We would only have to deal with him for 1 year, and we could trade him by the trading deadline if that came about. I would do it if that is the best deal going.
     
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    It would have to be the biggest joke of free agency. Trading an old fat shot jackin forward for another old shot jackin player.
     
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    I think Dallas can't afford to lose Walker, He's a big help in their offense...
     
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    I don't know. Marquis Daniels was signed to play the point, and Devin Harris is NBA ready IMO. Losing Jamison AND Walker leaves a hole, unless they can use Walker to land a center to help out Dirk.
     
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    Walker, Bradley, some Filler, for a Center. That solvles all our problems, we get rid of Walker and Bradley and we get a Center [​IMG]
     
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    Walker, Bradley and Pavel for Damp+NVE. Done!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_spark:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Dallas can't afford to lose Walker, He's a big help in their offense...</div>

    Just speaking of terms of scoring and not losing a position player, they could afford to lose him. Dallas has a ton of scoring talent outside of Walker in Dirk, Stack, Daniels, Finley, and Harris could very possibly be a offensive contributor instantly. So, if you're talking about losing a scorer, that won't hurt them, especially if they can get someone who can play center for them. Currently, isn't Dirk likely to be center next year with the team they have assembled currently. If that's so, they're going to have nothing for a shot blocking prescence, as if they did anyways, or any type of interior defense, again, they never really had it anyways. If they could trade Walker away for a big man who can at least defend, that would do wonders for them. But, Dallas can afford to lose him as they already have enough offense as is.

    EDIT: I neglected the fact that they do have Podkolzone to play center, but, he has yet to prove himself. But, if he indeed does start, they could trade off Walker and have a lineup something like this:

    C: Pavel
    PF: Nowitzki
    SF: Stackhouse
    SG: Finley or Daniels
    PG: Harris or Daniels

    So, they'd still be safe trading off Walker. Frees them of a bad contract and they also have players who can fill his hole on the team anyways, both roster-wise and scoring-wise.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">EDIT: I neglected the fact that they do have Podkolzone to play center, but, he has yet to prove himself. But, if he indeed does start, they could trade off Walker and have a lineup something like this: </div>
    Pavel is a lot like Darko. He's no where near ready, WAY too raw.

    He'll enjoy sitting on the bench during the regular season, with the occasional garbage minute or two.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Casske:</div><div class="quote_post">Antoine Walker posesses none of those qualities. In fact, I was suprised the Mavericks traded Jamison. I always felt he was the more talented, more intelligent of the two players. WHen he realized his three point shot wasn't consistant enough, he used it more sparingly. Walker just started taking more of them.</div>

    They traded Jamison because of his big contract.
     
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    Chris Mullin must of Guaranteed or told Fisher something regarding Speedy or Nick, because Derek isn't dumb enough to take a contract like that when he will have to split PT with 2 other PG's. Fisher probably had similar offers from Houston and Seattle, so its very possible that Mullin told Fisher regarding the guard situation. I think Mullin has something up his sleeve...
     
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    I don't really like the trade. I'd love to have Nick back, if he has anything left
    in his tank, but would be content to roll the young guys out there and see what
    they can do. If we can get Nick as part of a Dampier trade, yeh, I'm all for it.

    But head up, Walker is a way more valuable commodity than Nick. Don't forget,
    we're talking a 20P, 9R, 4A guy. You can complain about shot selection, etc,
    but he is a player and could be excellent in the right system (just not ours I hope).
    Nick is considered salary cap filler at this point.

    And remember, Stackhouse and Laetner cannot be moved until August something,
    60 days after the trade that brought them to Dallas. For all we know, a trade may
    already have been worked out (www.blogmaverick.com).
     

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