Politics AOC At It Again....

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    She will do or say whatever it takes to get some attention, that’s just what type of person she is. She’s pushed in all of her chips to participate in identity politics. Most of her ideas are poorly thought and have no realistic or factual means for application. She’s basically a teenage girl who’s given way too much attention. I don’t necessarily think she’s worse than other politicians though, in fact I think she has a good heart and means well. She kind of just gets an idea and runs with it until the wheels fall off.
     
  3. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I agree with you 100%.......but you also just described Donald Trump to a tee. We are so very fucked.......
     
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    exactly, except the difference is, one is suppose to be the president of the free world and the other is a freshman house rep with very little power if any. One can do immense harm on their own and the other has really very little say.
     
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    The problem I have with her there is no middle ground she's balls too wall wanting to go so progressively left, she isn't able to mediate or conciliate (bring together & off idea's).
    Leaders in congress need to know how to find some common ground so they can can stuff done for the people.
    This isn't some life time country club they joined where they can cry and whine if they lose or don't get their way...but IM seeing a whole lot of that on all sides.
    Term Limits...there should always be new positive vitality coming into congress rather than keeping the old guard of both sides that are so bought by lobbyist and special interest.
     
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  6. MarAzul

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    Oh, I don't know if I can agree with that! But I expect she does have her uses.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Funny to read people critical of some democrat or their kids etc and remove the name or pronoun and replace with Trump/he. Do you even realize it?
     
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    At least she has a backbone. More than I can say for the senate republicans and especially Moscow Mitch. Those clowns are spineless.
     
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    :tongue:

    Ha! @BlazerWookee might be the only one alive in this thread.
     
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    Did I do it?
    I can't even intuit what you mean.
     
  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'd say neither one. At the moment, she's just a young back-bench rep who Republicans have decided needs 100% name recognition.

    Joe Biden was about the same age when he started in politics, but he didn't get to 100% name recognition until he was in his 60s.

    AOC will have it by the time she is 35 and legally eligible to run for president.

    Republicans are elevating her stature in hopes that it backfires on Democrats. It's a very stupid strategy.

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't agree with her on some things, but she seems very likable in the documentary about her run for congress.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez proves again she has no idea what she is talking about

    By Justin Haskins | Fox News

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – who has already proven she knows almost nothing about her beloved socialism, the environment, energy, science, economics, job creation and government – has now shown she knows almost nothing about history.

    But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good tweet or soundbite for TV? Ocasio-Cortez certainly never has.

    Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., tweeted Thursday on behalf of statehood for Washington, D.C. – a long-cherished goal of Democrats, because the city’s overwhelming Democratic voter registration would guarantee that party two more seats in the Senate and one in the House.

    The District of Columbia Board of Elections reported in August that a whopping 76 percent of the city’s registered voters are Democrats, but only 6 percent are Republicans.

    Never mind that 19 other U.S. cities have larger populations than Washington, D.C. Democrats don’t argue for statehood for those cities.

    In tweeting on behalf of D.C. statehood, Ocasio-Cortez wrote: “DC was the 1st territory in the United States to free the enslaved. It’s where Black Americans fled the tyranny of slavery & towards greater freedom, to DC. Yet today it’s where 2nd class citizenship reigns, and the right to vote is denied.”

    Uh, not really, Madam Congresswoman.

    The National Archives – which employs real historians as opposed to politicians who just make stuff up – says that: “Slavery remained legal in the District until April 16, 1862, when President Abraham Lincoln signed into law an act abolishing slavery in the District.” This took place when the Civil War (perhaps you’ve heard of it, Congresswoman?) was well underway.

    In fact, Vermont abolished slavery in 1777. By 1804 every Northern state had passed laws to abolish slavery. It took a few years for abolition to phase in in some states.

    When confronted with these historical facts, Ocasio-Cortez tried to explain away her obviously false tweet, writing on Twitter: “The right is pushing back on this. To clarify in 280 chars, DC was the first area where enslaved people were freed by the US government.”

    OK, but that’s not a clarification. It’s a correction of a blatantly false statement – something Ocasio-Cortez could not bring herself to admit.

    Ocasio-Cortez also stated falsely in her tweet that “the right to vote is denied” to residents of the nation’s capital.

    In fact, the people of Washington elect their own City Council members and mayor. And since 1961 D.C. residents have been allowed to vote for candidates for president and vice president, and the district has been able to cast ballots in the Electoral College.

    It’s true, however, that because Washington, D.C., isn’t a state, it doesn’t have voting representation in Congress, although it does have a non-voting representative in the House. But that’s a far cry from claiming D.C. residents are “2nd class” citizens who don’t have the right to vote.

    It would take a book to list all the false – and frankly ridiculous – statements Ocasio-Cortez has made in her meteoric rise to media stardom.

    Why are Ocasio-Cortez’s ignorance and false statements about slavery and the lack of voting rights for residents of Washington important? Because they illustrate her cluelessness and dishonesty (if she actually believes the nonsense she is peddling) about a lot of other things.

    And because she has become a magnet for media coverage and has a huge social media following, the 29-year-old first-term congresswoman – who worked as a waitress and bartender before her surprise election victory last year – has enormous influence on the left. Some of her enthusiastic supporters even want her to run for president after she turns 35, the minimum age for a president set in the Constitution.

    It would take a book to list all the false – and frankly ridiculous – statements Ocasio-Cortez has made in her meteoric rise to media stardom.

    For example, she has come up with the Green New Deal to fight climate change and restructure our entire society to bring about a socialist revolution. In reality, the Green New Deal requires actions that are scientifically impossible, enormous tax increases on us all, the destruction of many industries and millions of American jobs, and trillions of dollars in new government spending that would bankrupt our country.

    And on top of it all, the Green New Deal wouldn’t even affect climate change, because it would do nothing to reduce carbon emissions in other countries.

    In addition, Ocasio-Cortez’s embrace of the failed system of socialism is downright scary. If she seriously thinks Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, China and the old Soviet Union are role models for what the U.S. should be, she needs to go back to elementary school and catch up on lessons she missed.

    The congresswoman could have a great career as a writer of fantasy and science fiction. What comes out of her mouth – and her Twitter feed – is so divorced from reality that no one who has made it past kindergarten should take it seriously.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jus...ain-she-has-no-idea-what-she-is-talking-about
     
  14. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Speaker Pelosi and the other high ranking Dems are letting the Squad stay out front promoting insane and inane policies and positions, moving the percieved center of discussoon further and further to the left. Then when election time rolls around, the establishment Dems can stake out a position as far left as possible but still to the right of AOC, et. al. and claim to be rational moderates.

    I don't think it'll work as well as they hope. I fear it may work better than I hope.
     
  15. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I'd have to say no. She's taking on Pelosi & Co. like no other that I have seen. Moreover, the Democratic Party appears to be approaching a shift. With Trump in play, the Centrists appear to be diminishing and what you have is Left, Left of Left, and quasi-Socialists.

    https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/campaigns/article233177051.html

    This is the New Frontier, baby!

     
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    If AOC was white the GOP wouldn’t feel as threatened

    Facts
     
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    or if AOC was a republican they would be praising her as the future, lol. It's hilarious how a young female politician has gotten so far into the republicans head and how much fear she puts in them.
     
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    Fear the hispanic freshmen rep. She's coming after you maris. :biglaugh:
     
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    You guys will have to fight this one out.

    barfo
     
  20. ABM

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    Regardless of the elements of the strategies, the Democratic party is becoming somewhat fractured. While the current polls have any of your candidates beating Trump, it will be very interesting to see how all that holds out come late next year. Meanwhile, I'm gonna grab some popcorn and watch the infighting. Gonna be fun.
     

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