Araujo a waste of a pick?

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  1. og15

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    Well I think I've come to the comclusion that Araujo has been a waste of a pick, even though I've thought he was since draft day, but it's even more apparent since he's doing absolutely nothing. Maybe he'll be ready by the All-Star break [​IMG]

    1) He's not really young as he's 24 years old
    2) The reason we drafted him was supposed to be because he'd have immediate impact and help us right away
    3) We could've drafted Iguodala further sercuring our future, and gotten a guy like Araujo with something like the 20th pick this season.

    Now thinking of that, if he's not going to help us right away, what was the point of picking him, like I said, in this upcoming draft we could get a guy of his caliber with a much lower pick, and now we wasted it on him when we could've gotten Iggy who I wanted as soon as I saw we weren't getting on of those PG's, and who's also doing pretty good on the Sixers.

    His shot is 10 times better than people thought it would be, he's shooting well, is a multi talented player, is athletic, and is also a good defender.
    If we had gotten him we wouldn't have to resign MoPete, and he's currently just as good an option or maybe even better than MoPEte is doing right now due to consistency and the fact that he's a better defender due to more athleticism and also a real good reboudner. 8.2 points, 6.2 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.92 steals, 1.54 turnovers, 47.3% FG, 40.9% 3PT (9-22), and also getting to the line pretty well [2.7 times a game] for the amount of touches he gets, ah well, let's hope Araujo becomes Brad Miller [​IMG]
     
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    i was watching the game with the kicks (the first one) he air balled a lay up wat kind or profesional athlete misses the esiest thing in there sport
     
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    he'll be ok,it'll just take time for him to develop.
     
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    Araujo is a late first-rounder at best. Sure, he has size, but what good does that do when he's sucking at everything else? He's looking lost on the court, and tries to do too much on offense at times. I agree, Igoudala would have been a better choice, but I guess Babcock rushed the pick because the center spot was (and still is) our biggest hole. Worst part about Araujo is his age; at 24, you don't have much developing potential, and he might jolly well remain at the level he is now for the rest of his career.
     
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    I think Babcock tried too hard to draft based on need. I agree it was the best method to improve your team, but the players chosen before created the worst possible scenario. In that situation you have to forget about drafting for position and just take the best player on the board.
    Even if you drafted a center, Swift would have been a better pick. They are both projects but Swift has more potential and is younger.
     
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    we could have picked up telfair and made him our project, superstar in waiting pg as well.
     
  7. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting R_ChutneY:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Babcock tried too hard to draft based on need. I agree it was the best method to improve your team, but the players chosen before created the worst possible scenario. In that situation you have to forget about drafting for position and just take the best player on the board.
    Even if you drafted a center, Swift would have been a better pick. They are both projects but Swift has more potential and is younger.</div>
    I know, if we wanted a project, why not get Andris Biedrins or Robert Swift instead, I mean Araujo is 24, he can improve, but their's not that much room for improvement at his age.
     
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    A-N-D-R-E IGUODALA is all I gotta say.
     
  9. skip

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    i think he will develop into a brad miller type player.. just give him time, centres need time to develope no matter how old they are.. just look at yao, hes nothing compared to what he will become if he keeps improving like he is..
     
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    Well at least we have one Araujo believer....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    he'll be ok,it'll just take time for him to develop.
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    That's the thing, we drafted him for immediate action and help.
    He's not providing any. I see him play, all he does is make tacky fouls, looks lost and has VERY slow foot speed.
    Matt Bonner is better then him.
    And this guy (Hoffa) was the EIGHTH pick in the NBA draft? Talk about a bust. True, centers need some time to develop but one would think a solid college player like him could atleast make SOME impact on a team. He's making absolutely no difference.

    I thought from the beggning he was a waste of a draft pick. I really wanted A.I2 or Jameer Nelson but got neither. We got stuck with yet another Greg Ostertag-type player. At the rate he's going, he'll be out of the league soon. Hopefully I'm wrong about him and I know it's only his rookie but please, atleast show some glimpses of solidness.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DerfZ:</div><div class="quote_post">i think he will develop into a brad miller type player.. just give him time, centres need time to develope no matter how old they are.. just look at yao, hes nothing compared to what he will become if he keeps improving like he is..</div>

    he isn't as long as brad miller or ostertag so i agree with og he will be beside alec rodajevic (sp.) and nate huffman in raptor reject center history.
     
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    Araujo reminds me of... Guess I can't remember the names cause they're all forgotten and no longer playing. This guy is a serious stiff, doesn't look like he would fit on any court, college, pro, or ymca. Looks like he has no clue where he is supposed to be on the floor, is tentative, and rushes everything. Sure, you can say he is a rook and that he'll develop, but as others have already pointed out, the guy is 24 YEARS OLD; which is ancient for a rookie. If you're gonna draft someone that age with that pick, he better have game from the get go, and I'm not talking superstar game, I'd be happy with a Matt Bonner understanding of pro hoops; know where you're supposed to be, understand your place and your limitations, and play with confidence.
     
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    this is just his first season give him a break.... if mid next year hes still crap then ok.. hes a bust.. none of the centers in this years draft is making any impact anyways, and if we drafted a point guard or not a center, then we wudnt have signed Skip, and we would've gotten a center with no future at all..
     
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    Sure, he'll imrpove, but our second rounder is hella better than him. Hella better than him. But come on, we drafted him based on need, he doesn't help our needs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Well at least we have one Araujo believer....</div>

    its not that i belive in him.. its just that i wanna give him a fair chance, its only been like 15 games in and every1 is saying hes a wasted pick..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">Sure, he'll imrpove, but our second rounder is hella better than him. Hella better than him. But come on, we drafted him based on need, he doesn't help our needs.</div>


    he doesnt yet.. but tell me who would have helped us via draft or free agency.. and those guys wouldnt even help us now or in the future
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DerfZ:</div><div class="quote_post">this is just his first season give him a break.... if mid next year hes still crap then ok.. hes a bust.. none of the centers in this years draft is making any impact anyways, and if we drafted a point guard or not a center, then we wudnt have signed Skip, and we would've gotten a center with no future at all..</div>
    Drafting someone that isn't a center doesn't impede us from signing Skip, everyone is saying Iguodala, and if we had gotten him we wouldn't have need to sign MoPete, and it still doesn't stop us from signing Skip.

    I don't see the correlation...

    The thing is that he's supposed to be an immediate impact player, that was the only reason he was really considered a lottery pick, his ceiling isn't considered high in terms of potential, now when he doesn't give you immediate impact then wouldn't you have been better off drafting another guy who also wouldn't give you immediate impact but has a higher ceiling of improvement, or in Iguodala's case, give you immediate impact, save you money, and still have much higher room for improvement?
     
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    i think we all thought hoffa was going to be the second coming of bill lambeer, but u need a few beers before u see any skill in this kid.
     
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    alright man.. i c no point in arguing on, so ill stop but i will still keep fair judgement on the issue of Aruajo... anyways.. remember JO? im not saying Aruajo is as talented as O'neal is but just remember, JO has been called a bust for 4 seasons, and now look at him.. averaging double doubles
     

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