Science Are the Covid Vaccines the Biggest Pharma Corporate Welfare Bailout in History?

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  1. RoseCityRebel

    RoseCityRebel Well-Known Member

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    I’ve worked in Pharma. There are no blockbuster drugs left, just additions to existing drugs for “new” medicine like adding Tylenol to migraine medicines.

    I’ve never seen literally hundreds of billions of taxpayer money support Big Pharma like this Covid vaccine madness and the government is advertising these costly taxpayer-funded jabs for the Pharma companies.

    This is corporate welfare for Big Pharma at an unprecedented level and the odd thing is Democrats are more supportive of the corporate welfare than are Republicans.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm guessing you weren't head of R&D for any of the major pharma companies, then.

    It's almost as if the Democrats think that government has a vested interest in the health of the people.

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    Yes, and keeping Big Pharma solvent too. If the government was really interested in keeping people healthy, Cuomo wouldn’t have sent infected people into nursing homes and $5 HCQ/Zinc that lupus sufferers have taken for 65 years wouldn’t have been called an unsafe prophylactic medicine.

    lol

    Democrats are now the party of corporate welfare, along with the remaining GOP corporatists in government.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    lol indeed.

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    Anyone who endorses hydroxychoroquine makes me wonder, just what did you do in your pharma job?
     
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    So the Chinese faked covid so Trump would give taxpayer money to pharmaceutical companies because they can't invent anymore drugs?

    YES! FINALLY SOMEONE HAS BEEN READING MY NEWSLETTER!
     
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    Such a bullshit take. HCQ has been used for years for a variety of applications. Trump mentioned it one time and all of the sudden it’s kryptonite to liberals. Grow up.
     
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    No one is blaming hydroxychloroquine. Everyone is blaming Trump for being an unlicensed quack.

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    I worked in the industry. True, many new drugs are just tweaks of existing ones. But there are truly new ones. Like Covid vaccine. Like anti retroviral. Had they been around in the 80s and 90s I would not have lost so many friends.

    Yes, hydroxychoroquine has had genuine applications, under medical supervision due to potential side effects. It has clearly been shown ineffective and even harmful as prevention or treatment for Covid. Republicans began taking high doses against medical advice because Trump said so.

    Pharma companies have a lot of sins to answer for, but Covid vaccine is not one of them.
     
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    You're absolutely right.

    https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.ED000151/full
     
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    Well this is such a stupid post that it defies logic.

    There is no reason that people shouldn’t have a choice to take HCQ as a prophylactic treatment. It’s been approved for general use in terms of safety for 65 years. I have no idea of the efficacy profile of it for Covid, but some doctors saw it work for patients. My cynical side says it’s because there isn’t billions of dollars to be made off of a generic, unlike a patented vaccine taxpayers are spending $200 a shot on human lab rats.

    It’s sad to me to see dishonest politicians claim HCQ isn’t safe while at the same time lining up people for experimental vaccines. Look at how it made this guy make his stupid post. What do you do for a living? It obviously has nothing to do with medicine.
     
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    Yet licensed “quacks” all over the world used it. Generics don’t pay Big Pharma bills like experimental vaccines approved only for emergency use, especially when taxpayers are buying the vaccine.

    Some people should stick with what they know. You and that crandc guy clearly know nothing about HCQ/Zinc.
     
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    Nowhere did I say Covid isn’t real. Stop lying, please.
     
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    Good point. There are lots of quacks, all over the world.

    Nor are generics useful for implanting microchips that control your behavior.

    Only some people?

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    DID YOU READ MY NEWSLETTER OR NOT?
     
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    Using a 65 year-old generic drug is solid medicine if it shows results. Quacks are the doctors urging people to line up for mRNA vaccines that have been in existence for 3 days and haven’t come close to completing the FDA approval process.

    As for microchips, what are you talking about? Do you think there are microchips in these experimental vaccines? That’s quackery.
     
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    And if it doesn't show results, it isn't. We are dealing with the latter case here.

    Your medical opinion is duly noted.

    "These are routine takes on Twitter."

    barfo
     
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