Are they serious?

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by maxiep, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  2. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    16,057
    Likes Received:
    4,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tualatin
    UGH! Pacific Salmon?! why would I ever care about that... :green font:

    At least the republicans are encouraging spending cuts to go with their tax cuts.
     
  3. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    The strategy is clear by the Democrats. The Republicans want to roll back spending to 2008 levels, which is still too damn high (just like the rent). The Democrats are trying to ratchet spending so high next year in 2012 they can run on the GOP starving grandmothers and children.

    It's a bullshit political move being made with money we'll owe to the Chinese. It's borderline treasonous behavior.
     
  6. MrJayremmie

    MrJayremmie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,438
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Uh, both sides have been doing shit like this for a while. Note the mess of the country when Obama took over and the GOPs blockade of letting ANYTHING get done by filibustering at record numbers. They did that for the election, and it worked. But it wasn't what was best for our country. They didn't give a shit, why should the Dems?

    Both parties are putting politics ahead of country. If you can't see that, you need to take off your right-wing glasses.

    I mean, look at how Clinton left the country for a Republican when he left office. Then look how the republican left it for a democrat. They spent, spent, spent, and then the severe recession forced more spending, which was criticized by the republicans in order to win back the House. It goes both ways, and these conspiracy theories can be made both ways.

    Your feign outrage at the left is amusing though. You've been around politics long enough to not be surprised by this stuff.
     
  7. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Someday you'll stop using the "they were doing first" or "look at what Bush did" crap as excuses.
     
  8. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,964
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    New Bern
    You have an amazing ability to selectively read. He started the the post with
    , gave examples from Bush AND Clinton. And you come off like it was partisan.

    MrJayremmie said it best:
    Take off the glasses bboy
     
  9. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Uh, no. I made no reference to anything partisan. You might want to check your "selectively read" comment. If you took my post to be partisan, you clearly have a bias while reading and might want to rethink that.

    Regardless of which side is over spending, using the "they have been doing this for awhile" excuse is lame, and just plain stupid. Yet it is thrown out there continuously by some posters.

    Once again, I had nothing partisan in my post. The only reason you assume it is partisan is because you come on here reading with a bias to begin with. Take off the glasses bluefrog.
     
  10. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    9,418
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Stop the bullshit blaming game. The blaming game is why this country can't get anything done. Both sides are fucking up seriously and it is time for this shit to end. Spending cuts need to come across the board, from every program. Everybody built this deficit, everybody should feel the pain of repaying it.

    What is really sad is this deficit situation reminds me of the recent real estate meltdown. Everybody wants all the shit in the world, and nobody wants to have to pay for it. The facts are in life, if you build up a big credit bill, its going to be a real pain in the ass to pay it off. But you have to buckle down, make cuts, and make it happen or you end up living on the street.
     
    maxiep likes this.
  11. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    bingo.
     
  12. MrJayremmie

    MrJayremmie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,438
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    plus one.
     
  13. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,964
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    New Bern
    Sounds partisan to me.
     
  14. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    So you think the GOP should have rubber stamped everything Pelosi, Reid and Obama wanted? Perhaps the GOP actually disagreed with their vision of the role of government in our lives? Nah, it would have to be personal and political, after all who could disagree with taking over GM, the stimulus and Obamacare?
     
  15. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Repped.
     
  16. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    I would love to see spending cuts across the board. I would even be willing to pay higher taxes, if I has assurances that those taxes would go to paying down the debt/balancing the budget rather than new spending programs.

    This past election was about as clear a signal as you'll ever see. As PJ O'Rourke put it, it was a restraining order. Yet they're pulling the same shit as they're getting booted out the back. My greatest ire are for members of the GOP (Bennett, Voinovich, etc.) who are going to vote for this pile of steaming manure. It is ruling against the will of the people.
     
  17. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,847
    Likes Received:
    1,970
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obviously, since they cease being "our representatives" and persue their own personal agendas and ambitions the day after the election.... regardless of party.
     
    maxiep likes this.
  18. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Excellent point. Repped.
     
  19. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What were you saying about "selective reading"?
     
  20. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    yep!
     

Share This Page