Politics Armed Militia hunting FEMA in NC

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    Hurricane recovery officials in N.C. relocated amid report of ‘armed militia,’ email shows
    Safety fears are growing as misinformation collides with a large-scale federal recovery effort.

    LAKE LURE, N.C. — Federal emergency response personnel directed employees operating Saturday in hard-hit Rutherford County, N.C., to stop working and move to a different area because of concerns over “armed militia” threatening government workers in the region, according to an email sent to federal agencies helping with hurricane response in the state.

    Around 1 p.m. Saturday, an official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts after Hurricane Helene along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sent an urgent message to numerous federal agencies warning that “FEMA has advised all federal responders Rutherford County, NC, to stand down and evacuate the county immediately. The message stated that National Guard troops ‘had come across x2 trucks of armed militia saying they were out hunting FEMA.’”

    “The IMTs [incident management teams] have been notified and are coordinating the evacuation of all assigned personnel in that county,” the email added.

    Two federal officials confirmed the authenticity of the email, though it was unclear whether the quoted threat was seen as credible. The National Guard referred questions to FEMA when asked about the incident. One Forest Service official coordinating the Helene recovery said responders moved to a “safe area” and that at least some work in the area — which included clearing trees off dozens of damaged and blocked roads to help search-and-rescue crews, as well as groups delivering supplies — was paused.

    By Sunday afternoon, personnel were back in place, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    The setback is one of the latest examples of growing concerns about safety and security in western North Carolina, where many towns were almost wiped off the map after the historic hurricane made landfall two weeks ago. In the weeks since, misinformation and rumors have made the recovery more difficult, targeting multiple federal agencies operating as part of the recovery. Federal officials such as the secretary for the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA’s director of public affairs have been the target of antisemitic attacks.

    Arrest made
    Meanwhile, authorities in North Carolina arrested an individual and charged him in connection with alleged threats made against FEMA, a spokesman with the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office said.

    Capt. Jamie Keever, the spokesman, said the charge is going armed to the terror of the public, a misdemeanor, and the man will be identified later Monday in a news release.

    The threats were made at a gas station on Route 9 in neighboring Polk County, prompting an attendant there to share concerns with active-duty U.S. soldiers who visited, Keever said. The Army reported the incident to law enforcement authorities, who arrested the man Saturday night.

    Keever said while there have been unconfirmed reports of “truckloads of militia men” in the area, the details in this case do not bear that out. “This was a lone individual,” Keever said. “We’re trying to get the word out about that.”

    A U.S. Army spokesperson did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    Center of tension
    Chimney Rock, in Rutherford County, has become one of the centers of tension and conflict after a rumor spread on social media that government officials planned to seize the devastated village and bulldoze bodies under the rubble. Authorities and news outlets debunked the assertion, but people still took to social media imploring militias to go after FEMA.

    A person familiar with FEMA operations said the agency was working out of an abundance of caution and its teams were operating at fixed locations and secure areas instead of the usual practice of going door to door.

    “FEMA continues to support communities impacted by Helene and help survivors apply for assistance,” the person said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive discussions. “For the safety of our dedicated staff and the disaster survivors we are helping, FEMA has made some operational adjustments.”

    The heightening tension has resulted in residents harassing federal employees, said Riva Duncan, a former Forest Service official who lives in Asheville.

    Duncan, who is also a representative with the Grassroots Wildland Firefighters, said people have been yelling, “We don’t want your help here,” at federal employees delivering aid or showing up to do repairs.

    One Forest Service employee, she said, was pulling into a gas station when someone yelled at him to leave, saying, “We don’t want the government here.”

    “It’s terrible because a lot of these folks who need assistance are refusing it because they believe the stuff people are saying about FEMA and the government,” Duncan said. “And it’s sad because they are probably the ones who need the help the most.”

    In a text message shared with The Washington Post, a woman said that her child, a Forest Service crew member from California, was one of those who temporarily left the county.

    Earlier Saturday, a resident came to a supplies distribution center, now largely run by relief group the Cajun Navy with the help of a Baptist Church organization, and threatened FEMA personnel who were also stationed there in a trailer, according to two Cajun Navy volunteers. Lake Lure Police and Rutherford County Sheriff’s offices confirmed the incident.

    Sgt. Herbie Martin with the Spindale Police Department, located about 25 miles outside Lake Lure, was circling the parking lot Sunday afternoon. He also confirmed the incident, saying that he hopes “FEMA would come back.”

    Reverberations spread
    On Sunday morning, Ashe County Sheriff B. Phil Howell posted on Facebook about the challenges FEMA faces.

    “Recently in the mountain region, there have been threats made against them,” he wrote. “This has not happened in Ashe County or the surrounding counties. Out of an abundance of caution, they have paused their process as they are assessing the threats.”

    Howell asked residents to “help folks and please don’t stir the pot.”


    An FEMA team in Barnardsville left a site earlier than scheduled Saturday in the midst of helping people complete FEMA applications, according to volunteer Chloe Feinbaum.


    “My neighbor was literally about to click the last button to finish her application,” she said. “The person who was helping her asked, ‘Can we please just wait five more minutes? I want to finish helping this woman.’”

    A Buncombe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson said the office had not received any reports of threats to FEMA officials.

    A Forest Service employee who has been on the ground in McDowell County said that team leaders made the decision Sunday morning to stop them from going into the field that day “out of an abundance of caution” due to the threat to the west of them.


    The individual, who spoke on the condition of anonymity given the situation, said he and his crew have been clearing roads. Standing down was “demoralizing” and “broke the rhythm” of their work, he said.

    It’s been about a 51-49 split of residents being “grateful to see us versus ‘go home feds,’” he said. “We were aware of the threats made against FEMA in particular, but federal responders in general.”

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I believe it's ok if you are hunting them for food.

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    No. Not kosher.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    True, long pig is not kosher. But, how many Jewish folk are there in western North Carolina?

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    My sister, her daughter, son in law and grandson live in Charlotte. Quite a large Jewish community there.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My bad. See, I only know about East Carolina mascot.

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    I’m starting to wonder if a well-regulated militia isn’t in fact antithetical to the security of a free state.
     
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    If we didn't empower corporations to get so dominant and then allow them to write our laws I don't think we'd have this problem.

    It's insane the propaganda these poor people are being manipulated with.
     
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    it's a societal autoimmune disorder
    it's a societal autoimmune disorder
     
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