Ashley Lelie to ATL, TJ Duckett to WAS, 3rd or 4th Rounder to DEN.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Falcons trade DuckettBy STEVE WYCHEThe Atlanta Journal-ConstitutionPublished on: 08/22/06Flowery Branch ? Falcons' tailback T.J. Duckett doesn't have to hear any more trade speculation. Tuesday night, he was dealt to the Washington Redskins as part of a three-team deal that brings speedy, but disgruntled Denver Broncos wide receiver Ashley Lelie to Atlanta, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.The move, which comes roughly three weeks before the regular season, addresses an area that has been of concern for weeks and reached a crescendo after Atlanta's 38-10 preseason loss to Green Bay Saturday.Yet, in trying to bolster depth, the Falcons parted with their 2002 first-round draft pick in Duckett, leaving rookie Jerious Norwood as the main backup to starting tailback Warrick Dunn. Fullback Justin Griffith could also play tailback in a pinch or in the short-yardage situations, roles Duckett used to handle."I feel like I'll be all right," Norwood said Tuesday afternoon, before the trade was consummated. "I've just got to continue to get better. Whatever happens, I'll give 110 percent of everything I have."In exchange for Duckett, 25, the Redskins sent a third- or fourth-round pick to Denver, who, in turn, shipped Lelie, 26, to the Falcons.This is the second time in the past few months Denver has facilitated a three-team trade with the Falcons. Atlanta swapped first-round picks with the Broncos then shipped the choice they got from Denver to the New York Jets in exchange for defensive end John Abraham.Coincidentally, the Falcons considered using their first round pick (18th overall) in 2002 on Lelie before using it to select Duckett. Denver drafted Lelie with the very next pick.Lelie (6-3, 200) is a speed burner and a downfield threat, who has caught 168 passes for 3,007 yards with 12 touchdowns in his career. His best season came in 2004 when he had 54 catches for 1,084 yards and seven touchdowns. Last season, he caught 42 passes for 770 yards and one touchdown.Lelie has held out of Denver's entire training camp ? costing him $14,000 a practice in fines, which he is obligated to pay ? and expressed his desire to be traded ever since the Broncos' acquired wide receiver Jevon Walker, a move that positioned him as the No. 3 wide receiver behind Walker and Rod Smith.Lelie will be the Falcons' No. 3 wide receiver behind Michael Jenkins and Roddy White. Coach Jim Mora has said it would be made clear that any receiver the team acquired would not leapfrog White and Jenkins and that disruption over the pecking order would not be tolerated.With Lelie being in the last year of his contract, that not might put him in the most advantageous situation to put up big numbers to increase his appeal. However, he is getting the chance to play, which probably was not going to be the case in Denver because of the acrimony between Lelie and the team.Having been a starter, Lelie also could be able to move into a starting role should White or Jenkins get hurt.Atlanta has been trying to find someone to be the No. 3 wide receiver since veteran Brian Finneran tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee early in training camp. Jerome Pathon had been promoted to the third-wideout, but the coaching and personnel staffs felt they had to move in another direction after the loss to Green Bay.Lelie would be used differently than Finneran in three receiver sets. Finneran was a mid-range target. Lelie would be used more to stretch the defense, while Jenkins would probably operate more in a possession receiver role, Mora said."Mike Jenkins would be the logical guy to play the slot because of his size and he's good getting off the jam and he catches the ball well inside," Mora said Monday.As for Duckett, he could finally get the chance to be a featured back ? for a few weeks. Redskins' tailback Clinton Portis is out with a shoulder injury but is not expected to be out for the entire season.The Redskins, who play host to the Falcons Dec. 3, utilize a more traditional running attack that could work to Duckett's downhill running style. The Falcons' zone blocking, cutback scheme is more suited to slashers like Dunn and Norwood. Even so, Duckett has scored 31 touchdowns over his four years in Atlanta and gained 2,175 yards on 552 carries.Duckett began to surface in trade speculation after last season, when, after an ankle injury, he struggled down the stretch. He managed a career-low 380 yards (3.1 average) despite getting 121 carries, 17 more than in 2004, when he gained 509 yards and averaged a career best 4.9 yards per carry.</div>
     
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    Research brought to you by yours truly. :)BYE BYE DUCKETT. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Broncos | Team could receive two first-day draft picks for LelieTue, 22 Aug 2006 19:38:03 -0700Updating previous reports, Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos could receive two first-day draft picks from the Washington Redskins in the three-team trade involving former Broncos WR Ashley Lelie. If the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos in 2006, Denver would receive the Redskins' first- and third-round picks. If the Redskins finish with a better record than the Broncos, Denver would receive the Redskins' third- and fourth-round picks.</div>We might have the overpay of the Century. :LMAO:
     
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    Vick to throw the ball to Lelie? :LMAO:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Aug 22 2006, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vick to throw the ball to Lelie? :LMAO:</div>Lelie's possibly the best wide reciever that the Falcons have. What's so funny with that? Laughing? Look at your team's offense. :LMAO:
     
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    Oh snap that kicks ass!If somehow someway, the Skins finish with the worst record and get the 1st pick, which would then revert to the Broncos, I will laugh in the face of my friend who is a Skins fan, and I will laugh at all the Skins fans here.
     
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    JHair! :LMAO:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Matt @ Aug 22 2006, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Aug 22 2006, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vick to throw the ball to Lelie? :LMAO:</div>Lelie's possibly the best wide reciever that the Falcons have. What's so funny with that? Laughing? Look at your team's offense. :LMAO:</div>I know our offense sucks. But, we made the playoffs last year and the Falcons didn't. :flipa:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Aug 22 2006, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh snap that kicks ass!If somehow someway, the Skins finish with the worst record and get the 1st pick, which would then revert to the Broncos, I will laugh in the face of my friend who is a Skins fan, and I will laugh at all the Skins fans here.</div>It's sounding more like its just a Third Rounder to Denver, but that would be insane if that actually happened. The Jets and Broncos would own all their first day picks. [​IMG] PS: The Punisher, still say that Clinton Portis is fine? Because this move should raise a major red flag to that stance.
     
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    What do you mean. There is no way the Redskins WON'T have a worse record then the Broncos. The Broncos are primed for a 12 win season. I can't say the same for the Redskins. Either way though I think Duckett is worth it. I am a big duckett fan.The best part is I have Dunn on my NFLC fantasy team..and I am sure he can get some goal line carrys now. Woohoo.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Aug 22 2006, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Matt @ Aug 22 2006, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Aug 22 2006, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vick to throw the ball to Lelie? :LMAO:</div>Lelie's possibly the best wide reciever that the Falcons have. What's so funny with that? Laughing? Look at your team's offense. :LMAO:</div>I know our offense sucks. But, we made the playoffs last year and the Falcons didn't. :flipa:</div>...last year.and we're talking about Offense not Defense. :thumbsup:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Aug 22 2006, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What do you mean. There is no way the Redskins WON'T have a worse record then the Broncos. The Broncos are primed for a 12 win season. I can't say the same for the Redskins. Either way though I think Duckett is worth it. I am a big duckett fan.The best part is I have Dunn on my NFLC fantasy team..and I am sure he can get some goal line carrys now. Woohoo.</div>no he won't.justin griffith the full back will take all the short yardage situations.
     
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    [quote name='Matt' post='65749' date='Aug 22 2006, 10:34 PM'][quote name='Rex Grossman 8' post='65745' date='Aug 22 2006, 11:04 PM'][quote name='Matt' post='65741' date='Aug 22 2006, 10:00 PM'][quote name='Rex Grossman 8' post='65736' date='Aug 22 2006, 10:56 PM']Vick to throw the ball to Lelie? :LMAO:[/quote]Lelie's possibly the best wide reciever that the Falcons have. What's so funny with that? Laughing? Look at your team's offense. :LMAO:[/quote]I know our offense sucks. But, we made the playoffs last year and the Falcons didn't. :flipa:[/quote]...last year.and we're talking about Offense not Defense. :thumbsup:[/quote]So? We're a better overall team than the Falcons. :beerbang2:
     
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    ^ I can't argue that, but then again, the Falcons made some brilliant offseason moves.Pssh.. who needs that Portis guy? [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 22 2006, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Broncos | Team could receive two first-day draft picks for LelieTue, 22 Aug 2006 19:38:03 -0700Updating previous reports, Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos could receive two first-day draft picks from the Washington Redskins in the three-team trade involving former Broncos WR Ashley Lelie. If the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos in 2006, Denver would receive the Redskins' first- and third-round picks. If the Redskins finish with a better record than the Broncos, Denver would receive the Redskins' third- and fourth-round picks.</div>We might have the overpay of the Century. :LMAO:</div> :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: WOW!And the Jets already have their 2nd rounder!!!Lets go Broncos!!!
     
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    Redskins have the most retarded owner and front office in NFL history, I hope they suck.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Aug 22 2006, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: WOW!And the Jets already have their 2nd rounder!!!Lets go Broncos!!!</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Broncos | Team could swap first-round picks with WashingtonTue, 22 Aug 2006 20:17:35 -0700Correcting a previous report, the Denver Broncos could swap first-round picks with the Washington Redskins as part of the three-team deal involving former Broncos WR Ashley Lelie. If the Broncos finish with a better record than the Redskins, Denver would receive the Redskins' third-round pick and they would flip-flop first-round picks. If the Redskins finish with a better record than the Broncos, Denver would receive the Redskins' third- and fourth-round picks in the 2007 NFL Draft.</div>This is what they are now saying....definately not as bad, but wow, still terrible.ESPN is reporting at worst, the Broncos will receive two draft choices from Washington -- third- and fourth-round picks -- and those picks could escalate based on a complicated formula.This is beginning to sound like a massive overpay.
     
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    Jeeze. Snyder, you aren't going to be able to buy your team every year. You're going to eventually need draft picks!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Redskins have the most retarded owner and front office in NFL history, I hope they suck.</div>Your kidding right? Our owner doesn't build through the draft, he builds smart through veterans and young FA's. That's a smart man getting good young players by trading away draft picks.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 23 2006, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 23 2006, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Redskins have the most retarded owner and front office in NFL history, I hope they suck.</div>Your kidding right? Our owner doesn't build through the draft, he builds smart through veterans and young FA's. That's a smart man getting good young players by trading away draft picks.</div>Your kiddin right? He throws around bad contracts every year and it gets his team nowhere. The last 4 teams that have gone to the Superbowl are good examples of teams that built through the draft (Eagles, Steelers, Seahawks, Patriots). Snyder is a retard. He needs to learn that the draft is how you build a Superbowl team, not overpayin decent players in FA. He needs to keep his picks, not give them away for trash.
     

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