i noe the hawks suck and will suck for a long time. u ever think they will be a contender team for the playoffs or just another bad team until the nba ends.
What?? I cant understand what you said because i couldnt read half of what you said. All I understood was that the Hawks suck, which is obvious. But I dont see the hawks being a toilet bowl team in 2 years or even next year they could have a winning season depending how the draft goes and who they pick up this offseason.
I think the Hawks are finally on the right track. They had an outstanding draft last year, and there seems to be an actual plan in place for this team. It's too, bad they gave up on Prybilla so early, he's become a very good player in Portland. The team is rumored to be after Chris Paul if they win the lottery, and they will go after Sam Dalembert, Kwame Brown, and Stromile Swift hard in free agency. The Hawks have plenty of cap space, but more importantly they finally have some exciting young players who can bring their fans back. I still think they are 2 years away from putting a winning team on the floor. They just need to be patient with this young core and believe in continuity.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Hawks are finally on the right track. They had an outstanding draft last year, and there seems to be an actual plan in place for this team. It's too, bad they gave up on Prybilla so early, he's become a very good player in Portland. The team is rumored to be after Chris Paul if they win the lottery, and they will go after Sam Dalembert, Kwame Brown, and Stromile Swift hard in free agency. The Hawks have plenty of cap space, but more importantly they finally have some exciting young players who can bring their fans back. I still think they are 2 years away from putting a winning team on the floor. They just need to be patient with this young core and believe in continuity.</div> sammy is staying in philly!
I really doubt Dalembert will get anything more than what was paid to Theo Ratliff (originally signed by Philly for 7 years, $57 mil, then traded to Atlanta). Dalembert's numbers are only half of what Ratliff was producing at the time. Still, there's few viable alternatives, so he's going to get some good cash, but I'm predicting he'll end up signing somewhere for about $5 million a year at this point - which might be worth matching.
The Hawks should be a good team soon enough. Both Josh Smith and Josh Childress have had successful rookie seasons, and they will only get better. The Hawks are looking at Chris Paul in the draft, and if they draft him he should fix their problem at PG for many seasons to come. The Hawks also have a lot of cap space to use in the offseason, which could be used on a big man. If they have a good draft and spend well in the offseason, the Hawks could surprise a lot of people as early as next season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Zhone:</div><div class="quote_post">I really doubt Dalembert will get anything more than what was paid to Theo Ratliff (originally signed by Philly for 7 years, $57 mil, then traded to Atlanta). Dalembert's numbers are only half of what Ratliff was producing at the time. Still, there's few viable alternatives, so he's going to get some good cash, but I'm predicting he'll end up signing somewhere for about $5 million a year at this point - which might be worth matching.</div> Dalembert is only 23 and he's going to command a lot of attention. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get twice as much as you are predicting. Him and his agent are going to look around the league and see players like Dampier ($7.9M), Foyle ($7.3M), Ratliff ($11.7M), and Magloire ($8.5M), all those guys are relatively older than Dalembert. The fact Dalembert played center makes him a premium commodity in the league and teams will overpay. The 76ers are already in luxury tax territory, and there estimated payroll for next year is close to$70M. Then you have to consider Kyle Korver & Willie Green are also free agents this summer. Do the 76ers want to pay $80+M a year to put only a 7th seed in the playoffs?
the sixers most likey won't want to resign green since he won't get much minutes cuz he's backing up AI, so i doubt the sixers would want to resign green if he'll be looking for a big contract. as for korver and sammy, billy king has made it clear that he will do whatever it takes to resign them in the off season, so i'm staying optimistic for the sixers. as for the hawks, i already said it and i'll say it again. in 3 or 4 years, they will become the next bulls, long as they don't trade away some of their young players that they got in the lottery.
you really think that dalembert is worth a max deal, or that the hawks would give it to him? to me that seems like throwing away money. the guy can play some D and he's a valuable shot blocker, but he's rudimentary on offense and i think that would end up being a regrettable contract in 3 or 4 years. i think that the hawks would be smart to throw their $$$ at guys like Michael Redd, Joe Johnson, or Stromile Swift. Maybe even Earl Watson or some other young PG if they decide to take Bogut in the draft.
This is a new scenario I just thought of, we get Stromile Swift via free agency and we draft Chris Paul. Then we gotta a PG and a player who can play C, + both are capable of playing he run 'n gun style of play Atlanta is trying to establish with J-Smoove and Childress here.
No way is Dalembert worth the max deal, nor will the Hawks offer it to him. I do think the Hawks are willing to overpay to bring a player aboard. Last year they had a ton of money, but couldn't attract anyone, even though they were willing to overpay for Dampier and fee others from last year's free agency market. Michael Redd would be a great addition, but I don't think he would consider them over staying in Milwaukee or teaming with LeBron, or possibly ending up in Clipperland. Stromile Swift would be a great fit for the Hawks, but they are going to get into a bidding war with the Hornets who want Stro's services, too. Should be interesting how the Hawks handle this off-season. They have a lot of flexibility and young, cheap talent. Plus the most cap space out there.
The Hawks are athletic enough to be a good running team, they just need a point guard to tie it all together. I think Chris Paul looks like a good fit. Shapecity could be on to something when it comes to Stromile Swift. He's like a poor man's Kenyon Martin on offense. This looks pretty good on paper: C: Predrag Drobnjak (Outside Shooting) PF: Stromile Swift (Rebounding, Blocked Shots, Alley oops, Putbacks) SF: Josh Smith (blocked shots, perimeter shooting) SG: Josh Childress (passing, midrange shots, perimeter shots, get to the foul line) PG: Chris Paul Definitely looks a bit better than just having Bogut who may or may not be a franchise player. He's definitely solid, but it's the point guard that makes things happen, especially for a team that likes to run.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">The Hawks are athletic enough to be a good running team, they just need a point guard to tie it all together. I think Chris Paul looks like a good fit. Shapecity could be on to something when it comes to Stromile Swift. He's like a poor man's Kenyon Martin on offense. This looks pretty good on paper: C: Predrag Drobnjak (Outside Shooting) PF: Stromile Swift (Rebounding, Blocked Shots, Alley oops, Putbacks) SF: Josh Smith (blocked shots, perimeter shooting) SG: Josh Childress (passing, midrange shots, perimeter shots, get to the foul line) PG: Chris Paul Definitely looks a bit better than just having Bogut who may or may not be a franchise player. He's definitely solid, but it's the point guard that makes things happen, especially for a team that likes to run.</div> I think they need someone stronger at center but othewise that is an interesting line up. Do you think Stromile Swift would want to be a Hawk though?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Originally posted by Custodianrules2 The Hawks are athletic enough to be a good running team, they just need a point guard to tie it all together. I think Chris Paul looks like a good fit. Shapecity could be on to something when it comes to Stromile Swift. He's like a poor man's Kenyon Martin on offense. This looks pretty good on paper: C: Predrag Drobnjak (Outside Shooting) PF: Stromile Swift (Rebounding, Blocked Shots, Alley oops, Putbacks) SF: Josh Smith (blocked shots, perimeter shooting) SG: Josh Childress (passing, midrange shots, perimeter shots, get to the foul line) PG: Chris Paul Definitely looks a bit better than just having Bogut who may or may not be a franchise player. He's definitely solid, but it's the point guard that makes things happen, especially for a team that likes to run. </div> Boy your off if you think Josh Smith is an established outside shooter, I dont think he made it into double-digits in 3PT FG made, I only recall seeing him silk 4 threes and thats not being an outside shooter. I'd rather sign a free agent center from another league like the NBDL or CBA like Jackie Butler or draft Channing Frye with our late pick or trade up for him with our pick and Al Harrington for someone else and Frye than start Drobnjak, dont get me wrong he's a good guy and I love seeing him in a Hawks uni but I'd rather have him coming off of the bench. Imagine this rotation. PG: Chris Paul/Tony Delk/Royal Ivey SG: Josh Childress/Tony Delk/Donta Smith/Josh Smith SF: Josh Smith/Donta Smith/Tom Gugliotta PF: Stromile Swift/Tom Gugliotta/Peja Drobnjak/Josh Smith C: Free Agent/Channing Frye/Peja Drobnjak
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Drake Remoray:</div><div class="quote_post">I think they need someone stronger at center but othewise that is an interesting line up. Do you think Stromile Swift would want to be a Hawk though?</div> I think Stro will go where the money goes (It's a pretty weak FA market), but in order to get the most out of him, you need a capable point guard to deliver the ball. He's very exciting to watch if you like that raw goodness, but he can't really create his own shot or post up very much at 230 lbs and 6'9. He tries to dunk and block everything and it's hard to keep him off the glass because he's so agile and high flying. This can be a plus factor in certain matchups as he can do the work on putbacks and tip-ins and make the occasional mid-ranger. I actually see him more as a Hornet, being a former LSU guy. If Atlanta wants Bogut, they may have to wait a while on getting a pure point guard because there's not many good ones in FA right now. They might have to settle for a guy like Steve Blake or Brevin Knight or go for a combo guard like Antonio Daniels. It's too bad the Hawks couldn't keep Jason Terry, but it was clear they wanted to get rid of him and dump some contracts for an expiring one like Antoine Walker's. It's too bad they didn't get anything for it, though. They should have, but couldn't get anything done. At least they got the future first rounder.
