Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins, Filler for Allen Iverson DONE DEAL?

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Warriors And Sixers Almost Have A Deal?
13th December, 2006 - 12:48 pm
New York Daily News -
Sixers GM Billy King told another Eastern Conference executive on Tuesday night that he has "two deals on the table, ready to go."

One of the deals King was strongly considering is with Golden State, for point guard Baron Davis, center Andris Biedrins and a third unidentified player. In addition to Iverson, the Warriors would get backup center Steven Hunter.

While a source close to one of the players involved called the deal "done," the Sixers remain quiet about where they will be sending Iverson.

"It makes sense for the Sixers to make the deal with Golden State," an Eastern Conference executive said last night. "It's the situation the Pacers were in last year with Ron Artest. It's better to get those guys out of your conference, unless you're getting a blockbuster in return."

Earlier in trade talks, Golden State had been trying to move veterans with long-term deals, including Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy and Adonal Foyle. But the Sixers asked for Biedrins, Monta Ellis or Mickael Pietrus.</div>

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/437...st_have_a_deal/

Can't understand why GS would give up Biedrins.

 

Um if Mully did that trade, he'd need to be in witness relocation program.

 

Over my dead body...

 

Only way Biedrins is involved is ig Igodala is coming or there is a KG/JO deal going down on the side. I think it's more likely that Pietrus is involved if anything

 

The source is New York Daily News. If they are wrong about this, then I will be relieved... But on the other hand I will start ignoring any paper or news article that comes out of New York. They are highly unethical and care more about sensationalism than actual news or legitimate rumors.

 

Mullin=Isiah

If this trade goes down

Iverson is top quailty but giving up a guy close to Iverson in terms of talent and production + a guy who will be a top 3 center soon would be a terrible trade.

 

I thought Mullin was Isiah long before. Nice drafts, bad GMing and they don't coach or know how to coach. Both were great players in their day, but they were in over their heads as GM in terms of what they should be doing to make the franchise better down the stretch. Thank goodness the difference is that Isiah will make many moves and Mullin would rather stand pat based on what he has. I'd rather have the guy that stands pat than accumulate more undoable bogus moves. It's kind of a relief that Mullin doesn't have the monetary budget that cablevision or whoever owns the Knicks have or else he might jack up the Warriors even more and cost us draft picks.

If this trade goes down, I will be so disgusted in Mullin and the friends he brought in... It's like these former star players and hall of famers are out of touch with what kind of teams win in this league. It's like they aren't focussing on the matchups and they don't understand the CBA rules or the FA market when they take risks on Foyle, Dun, and Murphy and Fisher... horrible.

 

Again, over my dead body. There is no worthy Philly player, who should be traded for Biedrins. I mean, whole point of dumping our big contracts are because we would like to resign Biedrins and Monta. Right now, the reason we can run the small ball is because we have Biedrins in the middle. And, we can see our defense suffering dramatically when he is out. That's what very raw 21 years old Biedrins can do right now, and we have no idea how good he can be once he hit 25+ years old.

Unless Iverson can become 7 footer, get 10+ rebounds, block 2 per game and can play in the league at least 10 years more, I wouldn't even hear the deal...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Kwan1031 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Again, over my dead body. There is no worthy Philly player, who should be traded for Biedrins. I mean, whole point of dumping our big contracts are because we would like to resign Biedrins and Monta. Right now, the reason we can run the small ball is because we have Biedrins in the middle. And, we can see our defense suffering dramatically when he is out. That's what very raw 21 years old Biedrins can do right now, and we have no idea how good he can be once he hit 25+ years old.

Unless Iverson can become 7 footer, get 10+ rebounds, block 2 per game and can play in the league at least 10 years more, I wouldn't even hear the deal...</div>

Totally agree, Kwan. This rumor has to be b.s. Just because we have Patrick O'Bryant doesn't make Biedrins expendable. Plus, we get better with our rookies not guys nearing the ends of their career. Once AI loses his speed or is too damaged to play or can't take a back seat and play off the bench, he's really damaged goods. Remember when AI wouldn't even come off the bench for one game because his coach asked him to?

We don't need another primadonna IMO, especially not A"I".

 

Yeah, this deal doesn't make any kind of sense, so I am not really worried about it. I mean, forget about being top # center in the future. We desperately need him right now. Didn't we see enough Foyle action in the middle for last two years?

 

Baron + Beans > A.I.

Biedrins is untradeable. Easy as that. If this does go down, Mullin well need to get extra locks on his door.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Biedrins gets traded to Philly, I don't think he will develop into a top 3 center. Don Nelson and the Warriors coaching staff has been the key to Biedrins success, he won't have the same patience Nellie gives him out in Philly.

I agree with you guys, Mullin is foolish to let go of Biedrins in this deal.

How about Cheesecake or Ike instead of Biedrins?</div>

Ike to me is equally untouchable. IMO we need more of the things all-around big men do and the things that Foyle, Dun at PF, Murphy at any big position, don't do. That means second chance points, inside scoring, inside footwork, and altering shots at the rim. We've also seen moments where Ike was an effective passer from the high post and very unselfish, but also very aggressive. He's very physical, agile for his size with good body control and he can drive some. Even with Barnett crooning over Dunleavy's bball IQ, he'll push that to the side to notice how Ike is similarily smart player at power forward, but not a sloth or a softie like Dunleavy can be playing small forward or power forward. Dun is too unselfish at the wrong times and he fails to deliver when he tries to be aggressive. Dun's intangibles are noticeable when the rest of the team does well, but Ike's intangibles IMO are there whether he's scoring or not. It especially shows when Ike will be constantly moving and throwing his body into people and drawing double and triple team coverage when he scores consecutive buckets. That's something none of our forwards do at the moment.

Unless we're trading these guys for a better big guy or big star player, I'd rather we not trade for another selfish small guard. I don't like seeing the stat sheet where AI takes 20 shots a game and the other guys that can score only get 6-7 total attempts or so. He's good, but I think it's even more difficult to build a team around that kind of player, especially when his peak has been at a plateau for a while.

 

I am shocked at this rumor that Mullin would look to deal Biedrins for AI. Andris and Mullin have been close since before the draft. Andris loves it here, the fans love Andris, and I thought Mullin loved Andris too, but I guess we shall see soon enough.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Baron + Beans > A.I.

Biedrins is untradeable. Easy as that. If this does go down, Mullin well need to get extra locks on his door.</div>

Couldn't agree more..doesn't make any sense at all. Sorta makes me wonder if philly leaked a false rumor to try and keep AI's price as high as possible.

 

Umm...maybe there was a confusion or miscommunication. Maybe the rumor said Pietrus but the writer thought he heard Biedrins...

Agh. Sometimes I like rumors, but now this one ticks me off. Good thing it's only a rumor, at least for now.

 

This is out of the New YOrk Daily News, which is little more than a petty tabloid. This article probably ran right next to "Michael Jackson Gives Birth to Alien Baby!"

Please disregard.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This is out of the New YOrk Daily News, which is little more than a petty tabloid. This article probably ran right next to "Michael Jackson Gives Birth to Alien Baby!"

Please disregard.</div>

Think you are getting the daily news confused with the NY post.