Baron Davis: Most Overated Player in the League

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  1. Brasco

    Brasco JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">#1 ? Baron Davis
    Over the course of his career, Davis has missed 34 percent of his free throws and more than 59 percent of his field goals. Blame impatience and lack of concentration for the former, and a penchant for forcing shots for the latter.

    Davis' numerous ill-advised shots are symptomatic of his selfishness, carelessness and habit of playing out of control. Because he's overly concerned with his passes being highlighted on the evening news, Davis inevitably chooses to risk spectacular passes when simpler ones are in order. He's so focused on scoring that he'll assault the offensive boards with no regard to maintaining court balance ? thereby leaving his team vulnerable to fast breaks.

    Davis is also surprisingly ineffective in screen/roll situations at both ends of the court. On offense, he'll try to split any resultant double-teams, and on defense, he's simply too passive. Intelligent defense (pressure and containment) can force him into turnovers.

    For the past few seasons, Davis lobbied to be traded because the Hornets were consistently an underachieving ball club. If he had looked in the mirror, Davis would have seen a big reason why this was so.</div>

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  2. Char

    Char JBB Nowitzness

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    I disgaree with this article. While it speaks the truth when concerning his stats, still, the Warriors played so much better with him on the squad towards the end of the season last year. This year I expect B. Diddy to improve on all aspects of his game. I don't mind fancy passes because they are unpredictable from a defensive standpoint.
     
  3. shootingmachine

    shootingmachine JBB JustBBall Member

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    Baron Davis is an excellent player and deserves alot of credit. He is not over-rated IMO.
     
  4. Kwan1031

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    Let's see...

    Hornets:

    With Davis

    1999-2000: 49-33
    2000-2001: 46-36
    2001-2002: 44-38
    2002-2003: 47-35
    2003-2004: 41-41

    Without Davis:

    2004-2005: 18-64

    Warriors:

    Without Davis: 16-38
    With Davis: 18-10 with 14-5 when Davis started.

    Yes... Overrated...
     
  5. Brasco

    Brasco JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Let's see...

    Hornets:

    With Davis

    1999-2000: 49-33
    2000-2001: 46-36
    2001-2002: 44-38
    2002-2003: 47-35
    2003-2004: 41-41

    Without Davis:

    2004-2005: 18-64

    Warriors:

    Without Davis: 16-38
    With Davis: 18-10 with 14-5 when Davis started.

    Yes... Overrated...</div>


    u forgot all of the injuries 04/05 hornets suffered, without those they could ahve made the playoffs.
     
  6. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

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    this is bogus

    I read the article that had this.

    Two problems with it:

    1) Pau Gasol is the 7th most overrated player in the league. Yeah, RIGHT. That's why Jerry West has kept him and given him a big contract while trading out all those other cats. As far as calling him soft, how hard can you play when you have a skinnier frame like that. you'd be dumb to play hard in the post with that frame -- you would get Injured. He also plays less minutes than the Garnetts and Nowitzki players that's why his stats are less. Not to mention he's been surrounded by guys who want to score. He may have his flaws but he's not the 7th most overrated guy in the league.

    2) RJ is overrated too?

    "If Richard Jefferson played in Toronto, Memphis, or anywhere outside of the New York area, he'd be considered just another all-jump-no-shot performer."

    What are you talking about Rosen? Richard Jefferson is not on the New York celebrity landscape by ANY stretch of the imagination. Most people on the streets of new york would have no idea who he is. new jersey is just as far from nyc as philly is in terms of basketball. RJ put the team on his back when they lacked their other stars and then when they got Vince, he went back to being one of the options without sulking. This guy is a consummate professional not to mention a hell of an entertaining player. Rosen you're out of your mind.
     
  7. Kwan1031

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">u forgot all of the injuries 04/05 hornets suffered, without those they could ahve made the playoffs.</div>

    In the West? I seriously doubt it.

    Yeah, my lists are overly simplified, because 04-05 Hornets are destined to be horrible with all those loss of talents and injuries. But, I was just ticked off of the article saying that Hornets were constantly underachiving because of Davis...
     
  8. lessthanjake

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    yeah, that article is pretty much crap. i wouldn't put any stalk in it.
     
  9. Iguodala

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    some of it is true bot not all
     
  10. .cabangbang

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    Whaddya know? Charlie Rosen wrote this article..
     
  11. Schaddy

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    Elton Brand overrated? [​IMG] This Rosen guy is very hit or miss, historically, and this particular article is a whiff.
     
  12. Custodianrules2

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">u forgot all of the injuries 04/05 hornets suffered, without those they could ahve made the playoffs.</div>
    I disagree. The Western Conference is a little bit tougher now that the Hornets moved into it (schedule, talent, size, etc). Monster Mash isn't all what he used to be and Magloire is not really a true all-star center in terms of what the West has to offer in terms of forwards/centers and the number of good teams it has.

    But Baron is still a franchise player. He makes everyone better. Thanks for the article even though Rosen is full of crap.
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting lessthanjake:</div><div class="quote_post">yeah, that article is pretty much crap. i wouldn't put any stalk in it.</div>

    Agreed. But you did mean "stock" right? [​IMG]
     
  14. Todd$haw

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    B.D. probably laughed at this. If he's overrated he sure knows how to win ballgames and make his team alot better. B.D. will prove this guy wrong. Just a thought.
     
  15. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Todd$haw:</div><div class="quote_post">B.D. probably laughed at this. If he's overrated he sure knows how to win ballgames and make his team alot better. B.D. will prove this guy wrong. Just a thought.</div>

    BDiddy knows he's got a chip on his shoulder. He left New Orleans on bad terms and that hurt his image in the league. Some people think he's got an attitude problem, but the fact of the matter was he wasn't happy where he was and he wanted things to change for himself. I think he's got a lot to prove.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"If Richard Jefferson played in Toronto, Memphis, or anywhere outside of the New York area, he'd be considered just another all-jump-no-shot performer." </div>
    I found this funny too because Jefferson actually learnt how to shoot fairly well now.

    About Baron, what he fails to add is how Baron can carry a team, and make teammates better. As a fan of the guy, I've been quite critical of his shot selection, and I will continue to be, but I know he can definately lead and carry a team, and also make the players around him better. He's also quite good defensively, even with the whole pick and roll thing.
     
  17. playmaker15

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    wat a moron this rosen guy, baron brand and jefferson are all excellent player and this guy is an idiot.
     
  18. AnimeFANatic

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    This guy obviously hasn't watched any of Baron's games. Stats never tell the entire story.
     
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    This guy knows exactly what is up with Baron Davis, speak the truth , speak the truth. Baron Davis is so overated
     
  20. Rudeezy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bballer768484:</div><div class="quote_post">This guy knows exactly what is up with Baron Davis, speak the truth , speak the truth. Baron Davis is so overated</div>Are you going to give your thoughts or are you content with being a Yesman?
     

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