I'd have to say Mike Bibby. He's a much better scorer and a pretty good defender. Davis is an injury prone. And also isn't really that good anymore like he used to be.
Baron Davis, Bibby is a great PG and slightly a better shooter however Davis dominates other aspects of the game which Bibby does not have as good of a handle as he does. Davis is a great rebounder, distributes the ball plenty and does all this with a weaker supporting cast. Bibby has accomplished what he has with a team of a supporting cast which consists of players such as Shareef, Miller, Martin, and recently the addition of Artest whilst Davis is stuck with really himself and Jrich. Nemesis why do you say he's a much better scorer he handles the ball more in the game and scores barely more than Davis does not to mention his FG% is only a little bit higher than Davis's, and Davis isn't a bad defender himself. Both great PG's however I think Davis if he were put as the PG of the Kings would be making the Kings a better team.
You have to realize he also has Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy who are pretty good themselves. especially M-Dun.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jul 30 2006, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have to realize he also has Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy who are pretty good themselves. especially M-Dun.</div> Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy are both good players however not as talented or as skilled as what the Kings have..
I agree with Garenas, the Kings have Bonzi Wells, Ron Artest, Brad Miller, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Kenny Thomas to surround Bibby. Thats a great supporting cast. The only noticeable players that BDiddy has on his team are J-Rich and Troy Murphy. Mike Dunleavy is trash. Davis is getting more injury-prone however, and I'd say that that is a disadvantage that Davis has in this comparison.
Baron Davis is pretty much a top 5 point guard when completely healthy. I remember when he was ranked 1 in fantasy a few years back. The bottom line is davis is a monster, but Bibby considering his health and stats, is pretty much a solid PG every year. Davis is a gamble any given day. Davis when healthy, but Bibby's consistancy gives him an edge while Davis is on the injured list. And..Davis' surroundings is still very talented and davis knows how to find open men. Jason Richardson is only getting better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VisioNBLuE1 @ Jul 30 2006, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And..Davis' surroundings is still very talented and davis knows how to find open men. Jason Richardson is only getting better.</div> It has nothing on the Kings, the Warriors have Jrich and Murphay thats it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Jul 30 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd have to say Mike Bibby. He's a much better scorer and a pretty good defender. Davis is an injury prone. And also isn't really that good anymore like he used to be.</div>WTF are you talking about? Mike Bibby is a crappy defender.But I'd take Bibby too. He is the superior shooter and scorer. Maybe Baron is the better passer, but Bibby is not a bonehead, and he shoots a higher percentage than Baron.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 30 2006, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF are you talking about? Mike Bibby is a crappy defender. But I'd take Bibby too. He is the superior shooter and scorer. Maybe Baron is the better passer, but Bibby is not a bonehead, and he shoots a higher percentage than Baron.</div> Bibby handles the ball more often than Baron which is why he seems to be a better scorer to you however if Baron were to get the ball as much as Bibby he would score more often, and his shooting % is only higher slightly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 30 2006, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It has nothing on the Kings, the Warriors have Jrich and Murphay thats it.</div>JRich who has more potential than anyoneTroy Murphy who can get double doublesIke Diogu who has yet to get his minutes but has shown some games of promisePatrick OBryant - new rookieDunlevey can get you 16 a game
Its easily Baron Davis IMO. The only reason most of you guys arent saying him is because he is injured alot of the time and he doesnt get recognized as much. He was "2nd" this season in APG and Mike Bibby averaged like 6. AND, Mike Bibby had better options to go to on his team. Baron is a better shooter, passer, and he is good at stealing the basketball too. Neither one of them are good defenders but I would go with B-Diddy easily.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 30 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its easily Baron Davis IMO. The only reason most of you guys arent saying him is because he is injured alot of the time and he doesnt get recognized as much. He was "2nd" this season in APG and Mike Bibby averaged like 6. AND, Mike Bibby had better options to go to on his team. Baron is a better shooter, passer, and he is good at stealing the basketball too. Neither one of them are good defenders but I would go with B-Diddy easily.</div>you dont watch much of bibby then.Bibby didn't average a high apg this season because he didn't play a point guard role that often. the offense often started in brad millers hands at the high post. Bibby is the better shooter, dunno how you could argue that. Bibby has a higher career apg than Baron. bibby can stay healthy for longer than ten games. Davis is the better defender, but Bibby is the guy then can make your team win games.So its Bibby.
I think it depends what type of team you have. If you have a team with a lot of talent (old Kings) that needs a point guard to be the glue and take you to contention, you take Bibby. If you have a team with little talent (Old Hornets) you take Davis. I'd take Bibby because I'd like my team to be in the situation that he would be ideal for.
I would take Mike Bibby for many reasons. First off, Baron Davis is the most injury prone player in the league,you can never count on Baron to be healthy for a full season while on the other hand, Mike Bibby is one of the least injury prone players in the league and you can always count on Bibby to give you 82 games per season. Mike Bibby GP GS03-04 SAC 82 82 04-05 SAC 80 80 05-06 SAC 82 82 Baron Davis GP GS03-04 NOH 67 6604-05 NOH 18 13 04-05 GSW 28 19 04-05 -- 46 32 05-06 GSW 54 48 When you compare the level of play between the two, Bibby is a shooter/slasher and more of a shoot first point guard regardless of his 5 assists per game while Davis is more of a pass first point guard even though he still managed to average around 18 ppg for the Warriors last season.Baron Davis2005-06Statistics PPG 17.9 RPG 4.40 APG 8.9 Mike Bibby2005-06Statistics PPG 21.1 RPG 2.90 APG 5.4 Personally, in my opinion a pass first point guard is more important in most situations but Mike Bibby plays in an offense where a scoring point guard is a better option because he has played around great passing big men in his career(Vlade Divac,Brad Miller,Chris Webber) which makes Mike Bibby's job to pass and create plays that much easier which allows him to be more of an effective scorer.In this case I would pick Mike Bibby over Baron Davis because Mike Bibby can be counted on 82 games a season and plays in an offense which allows him to be a scoring point guard effectively. Baron Davis cannot be counted on to play an 82 game season which hurts his teams dramastically and has forced the Golden State Warriors a step back in their mission to make the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Venom_7 @ Jul 31 2006, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you dont watch much of bibby then.Bibby didn't average a high apg this season because he didn't play a point guard role that often. the offense often started in brad millers hands at the high post. Bibby is the better shooter, dunno how you could argue that. Bibby has a higher career apg than Baron. bibby can stay healthy for longer than ten games. Davis is the better defender, but Bibby is the guy then can make your team win games.So its Bibby.</div>So does the ball just magically appear in Brad Millers hands or what? That is apart of the offense obviously and if Brad Miller shoots it, Bibby still gets the assist so i dont even see why that matters. And, thats not even true. During the spurs/kings series, Bibby had ball control for alot of the time. He had chances to get more than 6 assists. Baron is a better passer. When Bibby USED to get more assists, it was because his offense was so fast paced and he had more opportunites to gather assists. Mike still has more options on his team and Baron pulled down 9+ this year.
Mike Bibby because he doesnt miss games. I kno both guy arent the best shooters, but ill give my two cents on Mike Bibby, there are some nights when hes on like against atlanta, and then there are nights when you never want to see him shoot a basketball again(like against San Antonio.)
I think it's unfair to blame a guy because he gets injured too much. Maybe u can a lil, but not enough to say that he's not as good as another player even if it would seem that way when he's healthy.
