Because Obama may actually lose

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It's time to deny the possibility it might actually be the will of the voters. Close in the polls indicates this is true.

    The next whiney, lazy, hallucination of a conspiracy theory.

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/12204-does-the-romney-family-now-own-your-e-vote

    Never mind these machines counted all those votes for Obama, for Democrats in 2006, and gave the Democrats the House and Senate in 2010.
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, you oppose leftist conspiracy theories, yet you gleefully indulge yourself in every rightist conspiracy theory that comes down the pike?

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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Skewed polls!
     
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    He's a true independent that's for sure.....
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    What rightist conspiracy theories are you talking about?
     
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    I heard Obama's birth certificate smoked pot in Kenya with the Unabomber.
     
  7. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    skewed polls, global warming are the two that come to mind immediately.

    barfo
     
  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Neither one are conspiracy theories.

    Next?
     
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    Christ, SO MUCH WANK.
     
  10. Denny Crane

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    I guess I can be a bit more clear about my answer.

    Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

    I don't see any covert group or organization being behind global warming theories or skewing the polls.

    The only similarity between global warming and a conspiracy theory would be all those scientists who got busted for jiggering their data to fit their thesis. Scientists can actually (gasp!) be wrong.

    Just as pollsters can be wrong. When Democrats didn't like the pollsters' results, they complained they weren't calling enough cell phones. Perhaps by calling cell phones they're getting better results.
     
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    so denny, you think its cool that they own the voting machines? i mean this is some 3rd world shit right here
     
  12. BLAZER PROPHET

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    One would hope there are plenty of safeguards in place to prevent any legitimate threats to voter, or vote tally, fraud.
     
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    In no way do I believe in the conspiracy theory, but it is not clear to me why voting machines are owned by corporations rather than the government. Seems like vote counting is a legitimate service for the government to provide.

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  14. Denny Crane

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    No, I don't see an issue with a private company owning the machines. If the govt. throws a party, they might rent tables and balloons from a caterer and has no need to own that stuff.

    It would be entirely a different thing if the company that owned the machines also ran the polls (which it doesn't).

    When the votes are counted, they're sent by fax or email or whatever to the atty. general of the state. Is it a problem that the govt. is using phone lines owned by a private company?
     
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    Of course you can hack any kind of computer if you have physical access to it. It wouldn't matter if the machines were made and/or owned by the govt. or any company if the precincts allow people to physically modify the voting machines.
     
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    its easier to hack your own computer, but whatevz
     
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    It's easy to carry around a stack of punch card ballots with manufactured votes for your favorite candidate and add those to the of votes to be counted. If you're going to let people have access to the physical machines without supervision and enough time to hack on them, it'd be no different than letting someone in a mechanical voting machine and allowing them to vote as many times as they want.

    The vetting process done by the states and the feds would involve scrutinizing every single line of source code and finished code in the machines.
     
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    so you are saying ballot fraud doesnt exist?

    or just that paper ballots are easier to rig?

    i think the nature of the physical evidence they produce makes paper balloting harder to defraud
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    I'm saying if you're looking at any of the technologies, they can be defeated. There's nothing suspicious about the electronic machines. And I read up about the ones in question and it looks to me like they are literally designed with peoples' complaints about the previous generation machines in mind. Like having a paper receipt, no touch screen, not connected to any network whatsoever by any means, etc.
     

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