I mean after his game winning shot against NY how can Ben not be rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. There is no 6th man that is having more of an impact on the W's and L's for his team nor is there a rookie. Ben is breaking records left and right and HHMMMMMM whats this the 16th game ben has come through to give us a win in the final period. This guy is fearless when it really counts. If the game is on the line and u have a team with ricky davis, okafor , and gordan. If ur the coach who are u gonna draw a play up for? .......................... Ben Gordan! His impact on games is what makes him 6th man and rookie of the year. Numbers dont make game winning shots clutch players do. and although davis and okafor put up similar numbers. Gordan averages 10 less minutes than the both of them! I will be very upset if he doesnt win atleast 1 of these awards! Go Bulls !!!!!!!!
Postseason awards are announced in late May, during the playoffs. They don't all come at once, but usually take a few days to all come in. I think Gordon is a more likely to win 6th man than rookie of the year. His major competition is Ricky Davis, Earl Boykins, and Wally Sczerbiak, but none of them have been as clutch or have helped their teams win more games, as you pointed out. Rookie is more of a toss-up as it's almost a coin toss (a 3 sided coin?) between Okafor, Howard, and Gordon. Although Gordon might get the edge being on a winning team, he doesn't have the pure overall statlines of the two big men.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Zhone:</div><div class="quote_post">Postseason awards are announced in late May, during the playoffs. They don't all come at once, but usually take a few days to all come in. I think Gordon is a more likely to win 6th man than rookie of the year. His major competition is Ricky Davis, Earl Boykins, and Wally Sczerbiak, but none of them have been as clutch or have helped their teams win more games, as you pointed out. Rookie is more of a toss-up as it's almost a coin toss (a 3 sided coin?) between Okafor, Howard, and Gordon. Although Gordon might get the edge being on a winning team, he doesn't have the pure overall statlines of the two big men.</div> Using the overall statline isn't really fair. The other two are more apt to be able to do other things. They're each about 6'10", so they're bound to outrebound and outblock Gordon. I've been saying this for a while now, but I don't think it's fair to use that against Gordon when ROY votes come in.
Do you think Gordon will develop into what Reggie Miller was to the Knicks? Please, keep him away if that's the case!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you think Gordon will develop into what Reggie Miller was to the Knicks? Please, keep him away if that's the case! </div> It's looking like that could be the case. He's hit what, two game winners against them this year? Might have been three, but I know two for sure.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Eddy Curry had the other game winner against NY. I was there </div> He's talking about when Gordon hit the game winner at the Garden and *couugh* Nocioni traveled *cough*
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">He's talking about when Gordon hit the game winner at the Garden and *couugh* Nocioni traveled *cough* </div> i sense a little HATE-ration towards noch
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Eddy Curry had the other game winner against NY. I was there </div> I was talking about Gordon's floater up at Madison Square.
Ricky Davis and Ben Gordon are both dynamic offensive players. Players that can create their own shots and score at the time it's most difficult to score in the NBA. But Ricky is the leader of his team's second unit, Ben Gordon is not. Ricky has become the Celtics defensive stopper with the game on the line in the fourth quarter. Just ask Allen Iverson, Gilbert Arenas, AND Ben Gordon's teammate Kirk Hinrich which Celtics played them the toughest.
Ben is still a leg up on ricky davis, and ben is so much more fun to watch, ricky might be a good scorer in the forth quarter but he's not on ben's level in the 4th quarter
Gordon broke records? I didn't know that? While Gordon averages less minutes he also shoots a worse overall than them, isn't as good defensively, and takes a lot more shots especially per minute. Ricky Davis you could say has had similar impact on his team success, he's giving them many big scoring nights, also hit big shots and has big impact on the defensive end in addition to offensively. I do think Gordon should get 6th man though, but I'm not too sure about ROY. Emeka has put up just as good numbers, and while he's not clutch, you can't hold it against him when his team isn't in games, and big men aren't known as much for clutch shooting as guards aren't for rebounding. We'll see, but he can very likely win them both, though I don't think it will or should happen. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and ben is so much more fun to watch</div> I think that would depend on who you ask, Ricky does get a lot of dunks, and is an exciting open court player, while Gordon always keeps you on the edge of your seat in close gmaes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umer remU:</div><div class="quote_post">Ben is still a leg up on ricky davis, and ben is so much more fun to watch, ricky might be a good scorer in the forth quarter but he's not on ben's level in the 4th quarter</div> I personally do not agree, Ricky is extremely exciting to watch! Hes very agile and quick and he brings a lot of intensity to games. He makes a lot of shots that seem impossible, and not to mention a great defensive player .He steals the ball a lot and sticks on his man like glue. What is it about this forth quarter stuff though, I think it is more important to see a player have a consistent effort throughout the entire 4 quarters of a game. I think Gordon should get Rookie of the year, Okafor is good..But I think it will come down to the success of each of their teams, and Ben has obviously been a big impact in his team reaching the playoffs.
Ben Gordon has had the biggest effect on his team (rookie wise) he has had the biggest effect on his team (coming of the bench ie: sixth man) Making any an arguement for anyone else would be invalid.
I think tonight should quiet all those who said Ben cant put together a whole game. tonight he had 18 in the first half and ended with 30. to lead the bulls to 1-0 in thier series against Washington. Holla!
