Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 21, 2021.
isn't Nate Jones a good friend of Dame?
Okay sure, Shaq is the outlier. But he was scoring 27, 28 ppg... Simmons isn't even close to that.
It's hard to remember, but back in the aughts, people thought Ricky Rubio was going to make a huge splash in the NBA. Then he came over and gradually people started saying "he'll never be able to score enough to be useful". But turns out he can score. Like Jason Kidd before him, he turned into a respectable shooter. Maybe Simmons can have that kind of development.
"Destroys" is too strong. I think it's pretty clear that Desmond Bane is going to be a wing starter for them sooner rather than later, and they drafted Ziaire Williams to be another one. As it stands they have a lot of very solid players (all of whom are jostling for too-little playing time) but only one star. This gives them a shot at another one and allows them to give a bunch of young players PT while Ja is still young.
The real question is would Presti give up his precious picks. I think he's gone mad and will only trade picks for more picks.
man you keep turning me.
Still think he is a head case, but he is young and hopefully still impressionable. If Anyone can stabilize his psyche it would be Dame.
cj, roco and picks for simmons aNd curry works.
Incredible impact that completely turned the game.
Sixers writers are coming around on this idea. The trade referenced here is simply CJ, a 2023 first round pick swap and our 2024 first for Simmons. We get to keep everybody else on the roster. That's from Philly... the B/R article they're referencing has other trades but this is the one they wanted to write about. That leaves us with an easy plug and play situation where CJ is out and Ben is in. The rotation:
Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons, Nurk, Nance, Ant, Nas, Snell and Zeller if Nurk shot 3-4 threes a game and made 1-1.5 on average he would be spacing the floor just as much as Brook Lopez does for Milwaukee. To be honest we'd be better off than the Bucks are without Ben taking the inefficient jumpers Giannis does. So our spacing could easily be as good as this year's championship team's was. Dame, Norm, RoCo, Nance and Simmons would be our death lineup. Our defense would be possibly the best in the league and we would not struggle to score.
What a change in tone a few weeks make. It goes from Lillard is definitely leaving and the Blazers won't get better than Simmons. To now the MSM narrative is the Blazers might not be willing to part with CJ for Simmons as they aren't sure he would pair well with Lillard making even a straight swap with picks sound out of reach for the Sixers. Amazing. Also, that better be a smoke screen from Olshey to drive down the price if he really thinks that he should be fired, directly into the Sun.
Sixers fans are beginning to come to grips with the reality that they aren’t going to get Dame, or likely any other All-Star for Simmons and are trying to gin up excitement for an eventual CJ trade:
Smart guy. Amazing what happens when you take East Coast Bias out of your ass.
A CJ for Simmons deal should make Philly fans happy.
CJ in Philly will be just as good as he is now. Given the different situation, he could even see his stats improve. Simmons, OTOH, is a total crap-shoot. He might fit in great and make us better. He might be a terrible fit. He might render the whole thing moot by not wanting to be here and forcing another trade. Too make matters worse, Philly probably won't agree to a straight across deal. They will demand even more assets (that the Blazers can't really afford) just to assuage their ego.
To put it another way, the risk is all on our side. Yes, there is a possibly high reward. Do you feel lucky?
Again, although fans of both teams would probably be okay with it (which is rare), we haven't heard any indication that EITHER GM would even consider it.
Dame and Ben both follow each other now on IG
is there a way, like there is on twitter, to see if that recently happened or happened a while ago?
I think they would and I think there has been a lot of maneuvering on both sides to convince the other that they don’t need the other player.
If you want to get Dame a ring, we need to take a big gamble.
I didn’t say that they would. I have no idea how Morey and Olshey view this, other than believable reports that Morey wants Lillard instead. Don’t see that happening.
Agreed. Dame will almost certainly at least give us this season, and Simmons will be long traded by then. At most Morey could stock up on assets that he hopes he can flip for Dame next Summer. But that also makes a CJ-Simmons trade less likely because there's no way you can flip CJ for Dame!
I just see this as a trade that everyone but the GMs like, and the GMs would never do it in a million years.
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