Trade Ben Simmons poll

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 21, 2021.

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    10.1%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    65.5%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.6%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    20.9%
  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    This is as silly as Max Kellerman saying he'd take Iguodala over Curry to shoot a 3 if the aliens had a death ray pointed at the earth.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Take the gamble of losing Dame by trading away his best friend on the team for a guy who can't shoot and is reluctant to go the free throw line in the playoffs.

    I'll pass.
     
  3. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    Dame clearly wants to play with Simmons and if Dame isn't willing to trade CJ then we are fucked anyways. We cant get to the next level by keeping CJ. We are on the clock and there is no other needle moving trade out there. We have to take our shot.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    And then when the team is mediocre again with those two, and Dame asks for a trade anyway, what then?
     
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    I have a feeling with training camps starting three weeks from tomorrow that Simmons will be moved in the next 21 days. I don't know if it will be to us but we are a very likely destination. Regardless, the Sixers don't have a Harden situation in which they have a superstar with a set value that can only do nominal damage to that value. The first day that Simmons sits out of camp his value tanks even further. Morey will take the best offer he can get that helps the team now because he can't guarantee that Dame or Beal will become available, so he can't take a package of picks and prospects. The Sixers just aren't built to take on extra players because they have a team built to win now. I think that's the clock that's ticking.

    When Simmons had the series against Atlanta his value went down, when Doc and Embiid said what they did his value went down, this past week when his trade demand was made public his value went down, if he sits out a day of training camp his value will go further down and if he starts the season and has the balls to sit out a regular season game... or half ass it the way Harden did, that contract might come close to having negative value. So watch Woj's twitter because dude's getting moved soon.
     
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    We differ. I think it will be mediocre if you waste CJ on trading him for Ben Simmons.

    You've seemed to pigeonhole yourself into a Simmons or bust situation which I think is suspect AF.
     
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    I agree. I want to hold out for a dominant SF.
     
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    I want him just because of what he did to Luka in the Bronze Medal Game:
     
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    Just to reiterate: Morey really wants Dame. He realizes Dame may not be available by the time he is forced to trade Simmons. But he believes that Dame WILL be available in the next year or so. Solution? Trade for a package that will be attractive to a rebuilding Blazers' team. Shit, this means he could trade Simmons to someone like OKC and just get a shit-ton of their picks back. But what it CERTAINLY means is that he WILL NOT trade Simmons for CJ, for two very good reasons:
    1. If CJ is his asset, then there's no way he can trade for Dame when (he believes) Dame becomes available. The Blazers would not do that.
    2. If he gives the Blazers Simmons, then that might buy more time for the Blazers before Dame asks out.

    So... I believe that the only way Morey trades Simmons for CJ is if that's literally the only offer he's got. And we KNOW the Wolves are chasing Simmons hard, and we don't know if Olshey has even considered a CJ-Simmons trade.
     
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    I agree with Rasta. I doubt this is going to happen. But if it does, and as much as I like CJ (and I do), the potential fit is just so great that you have to take the chance.
     
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    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    If forced, I would trade Dame to ANY team in the league other than LAL or PHI if they pulled that shit. Morey is being a petty bitch if he tries to do that sort of thing and no way it works. I can't imagine he'd be that dumb. He would end up with neither and another year of Embiid's ticking time bomb knees. That would be the most incredible fail I can imagine. Simmons for CJ is far, FAR better than this insane idea which wouldn't work anyways. In fact, this might cause Embiid to ask out. That's a high-risk, high-risk idea for Morey as in little to no upside and high risk on both ends. Terrible 2-D chess. He ain't getting Dame, now or ever.
     
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    When you're a win now team, you just can't afford to do what you're talking about. This is the team that had the best record in the Eastern Conference last season they can't lay back for a year hoping that Dame or Beal ask out at the end of the season. Their fans wouldn't stand for it, their players wouldn't stand for it either. The CJ move makes them better than they were last season, just because of fit... he fills a need for them.

    No team in win now mode has taken a rebuilding package for an all star, in hopes that another team with a superstar will go into a rebuild in the near future and take that package plus more for their superstar. You realize after it's laid out that plainly how crazy it sounds, right? Morey has to take a win now piece or pieces when he trades Simmons. You're right he doesn't have to take them from us, maybe we're not even offering but he has to try and make his team better, not worse. If CJ is being offered and what we're offering makes the Sixers the best out of any of the offers they get, Morey will take our offer.
     
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    Id like to know more details about these lineups. Did Ben's mins correlate with Curry/Green? Did the non-Ben minutes coincide with Thybulle/Dwight on instead? Ben is their best 3 PT creator but that stat is loaded when considered in a vacuum
     
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    I’d say there’s a 2% chance CJ is traded at this point, might be time to just concentrate on what we have. Maybe something else at the deadline if we get off to a slow start but I just don’t see Neil moving CJ at this point
     
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    If he's not willing to move CJ, then you might as well go to the Dame trade thread. Especially trading CJ for an All-NBA talent like Simmons. I agree you may be right, but if you're right, then we are boned.
     
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    If we end up trading CJ for Simmons we should get one of their youngsters too. Just my opinion
     
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    I have pigeonholed myself into the "we need to trade CJ to open up the shooting guard spot for Norm" and the "we need a legit second All-Star" situation.

    What other players are going to become available that are better than Simmons and could be had for CJ?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Like who? And remember that not only do they need to become available, but that other team needs to accept CJ.
     
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    Who knows....feel free to research away. It was for the whole season so a decent sample size regardless of who was on the court.
     
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    Kind of the normal situation, no? Certainly applies to Simmons.
     

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