Trade Ben Simmons poll

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 21, 2021.

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    10.6%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    63.4%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.5%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    22.5%
  1. WesleyMatthews

    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    If Dame did the same comments and demands as Simmons I may think similar, as you said they have acted totally differently.

    I think many people don't side with players because its a slap in the face to fans of the team and these guys make more money than others can dream of playing a game for entertainment. Then they fail to back up that contract. Of course owners make a boatload, but they paid a boatload as well. None of the players put in $2 billion of their own money to be a part of the league as many owners have done.

    Some players want the guarantee of $ if they get injured but don't honor the commitment to the team if the team struggles. Whats the point of a contract at all then if all the downside is on the team? Why not have all players play on one year deals?

    I'm fine if Ben makes these demands, but if the team doesn't trade him, he loses fan interest, and he doesn't get paid I'm fine with that as well. I'd welcome seeing some examples of this behavior backfire on the player because it seems all of these examples get the player what he wants while often hurting the team.
     
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    Many fans still cling to the quaint notion that players have loyalty to their coaches, team-mates, and fans. Such players are exceedingly rare.

    And BTW, the differences between Dame and Simmons in this case are not just obvious, but profound! Even if Dame asked for a trade, he is one of those rare individuals who would continue to act like a consumate professional and keep giving his all on the court. Simmons is wired very differently, and that is why I am not enthusiastic about acquiring him. YMMV,
     
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  3. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    It is a conundrum for whoever takes him on. He is uber talented as far as athleticism, play making & defense. But how committed to his craft is he? Maybe a change of scenery is all he needs. Or maybe he turns his next team upside down.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    One thing is for sure. He needs to get out of Philly, and soon. The longer this goes, the more the situation will fester.
     
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    Lol
    So glad we won’t be getting overrated Simmons. Good job Neil for not making that trade
     
  6. royo

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    Or any other big trade never.
     
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    Better than making a horrible trade for Simmons yup :)
     
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    Time to rejoice!! Simmons can go and take his game that hasn’t improved and only regressed since getting to the NBA to another team and we can finally finally stop this Simmons talk lmao.
     
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    Hoopguru spent money on booze broads boats wasted rest

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    Ben's family will have a huge impact on what his next move will be. His parents and siblings all bend his ear on what he should and shouldn't do which is probably pretty normal.
    I don't think he will report to camp right away, but eventually will to avoid losing money. Then it could go either way.
     
  10. TBpup

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    Let's make sure we never trade for any player unless they are almost perfect....whether they are a multi-time all star and elite defender/passer or not. Only nearly perfect players are allowed here.
     
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    I mean NEVER. Not this summer only. All his moves are no risk bets. If Dame wasn't here we would be poor man's Philly "Process" under him.
     
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    Wasn't "The Process" predicated on taking risks for high ceiling stars? Neil is like the exact opposite of that.
     
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    I agree especially when our player being discussed in the trade is perfect in every way.
     
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    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    The Simmons haters are unreal in their negative evaluation of Simmons. Its not like we are suggesting trading Dame, Bill Walton in his prime or Drexler circa 1991. We are talking about trading CJ McCollum a Zero time All-star and in the running for worst perimeter defense in the league.

    What’s even more amazing is the hate of Simmons is almost exclusively due to a single playoff series. Recency bias and myopic focus on Offense. I hope all the Simmons haters were huge Stotts fans. He was monolithically focused on offense and shooting in particular as well. People are just straight up ridiculous.

    “Rejoice for another season of mediocrity that might push Dame over the edge and blow up the team!” Lol wut?!
     
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    In comparison to Philly, i don't see any hate in here for Ben Simmons. Just worries about his attitude & commitment to his craft. If he becomes a Blazers, I'm sure ,just about, everyone in here will root for him to succeed. Being a fan of CJ, and the way he carries himself, shouldn't be a crime.
     
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    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    It's not a crime. I'm not a fan of CJ for lots of reasons, but I don't begrudge the fandom of others. I was simply saying that Simmons is just a better player, and I stand by that. I also believe he fits our needs and has less redundancy than CJ. Some folks here definitely are Simmons haters. I dislike CJ in part because I was adamantly opposed to drafting him, I wanted Giannis among others with Giannis as my number 1, instead. You can search on Blazers Edge to see this is a true claim. I often wonder about the timeline where we drafted Giannis.
     
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    Lol do all the crying you want, it’s time to move on from this Simmons talk though
     
  19. illmatic99

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    why? there has not even been a hint at a resolution. Every sportsbook even has us as the leading favorite for his next destination.

    you're welcome not to click on the thread if this bugs you. :dunno:
     
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    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    I don’t see any crying. Just a lot of folks staking out their position. Find us an available allstar caliber wing, or something more intriguing to talk about. I personally won’t move on until one of CJ or Simmons is traded.
     
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