If you're a GM and have your choice of shortstops over the next five years, who are you taking? Vote and then give reasons why! If you vote other, please tell us who you think it should be. Poll will be up for five days or until it's clear who the winner is. We will do all positions, including Starter, Setup Man, Closer, and Designated Hitter. <u>Previous Selections:</u> Catcher: Joe Mauer (Minnesota) First Base: Albert Pujols (St. Louis) Second Base: Chase Utley (Philadelphia) Third Base: Alex Rodriguez (NY Yankees)
Hanley Ramirez. He has much more pop than Reyes, and I don't like how Reyes fell apart in the 2nd half last year. I loved Hanley's statement of how they were gonna beat the Mets the last game of the year. -Petey
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 24 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate to say this, but its Jeter with out a doubt.</div> Are you crazy? You want a poor-defensive singles hitter as your shortstop? Jeter's good, but Hanley is much, much better (even now).
I've only watched and really paid attention to 5 of them, and out of those guys, Hanley is the best. Plus, I'd like to include that I hate Derek Jeter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Apr 24 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hanley Ramirez. Easy. I accidently voted for Reyes, can a mod switch my vote?</div> Done.
Reyes. Especially if you are making an all-star team like this, you want someone electric at the top of the lineup. Funny how no one mentioned how bad Hanley is on defense, where Reyes is head and shoulders above him.
In his two years in the bigs, Ramirez has had 26 and 24 errors. Reyes worst was 18 errors in 2005. He had 12 last year. So far Hanley only has one error this season, but it's still early. Reyes has a lot more range than Han-Ram. Reyes has the better glove, is better on the basepaths, and is a leadoff hitter. He also strikes out a lot less than Ramirez.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 24 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In his two years in the bigs, Ramirez has had 26 and 24 errors. Reyes worst was 18 errors in 2005. He had 12 last year. So far Hanley only has one error this season, but it's still early. Reyes has a lot more range than Han-Ram. Reyes has the better glove, is better on the basepaths, and is a leadoff hitter. He also strikes out a lot less than Ramirez.</div> How do you think he did in the 2nd half last year? He crumbled more than any other Met. -Petey
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 24 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In his two years in the bigs, Ramirez has had 26 and 24 errors. Reyes worst was 18 errors in 2005. He had 12 last year. So far Hanley only has one error this season, but it's still early. Reyes has a lot more range than Han-Ram. Reyes has the better glove, is better on the basepaths, and is a leadoff hitter. He also strikes out a lot less than Ramirez.</div> How do you think he did in the 2nd half last year? He crumbled more than any other Met. -Petey </div> Reyes has a higher batting average post all-star than pre all-star break in his career. -THE DADDY
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 24 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In his two years in the bigs, Ramirez has had 26 and 24 errors. Reyes worst was 18 errors in 2005. He had 12 last year. So far Hanley only has one error this season, but it's still early. Reyes has a lot more range than Han-Ram. Reyes has the better glove, is better on the basepaths, and is a leadoff hitter. He also strikes out a lot less than Ramirez.</div> How do you think he did in the 2nd half last year? He crumbled more than any other Met. -Petey </div> His slump has continued into this year as well. But he's only 24. It's not like he's going to fall off the map. He still has a lot to learn about the game.
I go with Reyes. He's only going to get better. He's amazing on the basepaths. He's a very solid defensive SS with some great range and a very good arm. He's also a good leadoff hitter, which is a pretty high commodity anymore. He's also going to continue to progress as a hitter, both average-wise and power-wise. I think it's him easily, and I'm a freaking Yankees fan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 24 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 24 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In his two years in the bigs, Ramirez has had 26 and 24 errors. Reyes worst was 18 errors in 2005. He had 12 last year. So far Hanley only has one error this season, but it's still early. Reyes has a lot more range than Han-Ram. Reyes has the better glove, is better on the basepaths, and is a leadoff hitter. He also strikes out a lot less than Ramirez.</div> How do you think he did in the 2nd half last year? He crumbled more than any other Met. -Petey </div> Reyes has a higher batting average post all-star than pre all-star break in his career. -THE DADDY </div> He collapsed with his other team mates. While Ramirez were determined to keep the Mets out of the playoffs. Don't remember that? I find that admirable considering they had nothing else to play for. -Petey
The Marlins won 3 outta 7 agains the Mets in September, hardly "determined to keep them out of the playoffs". Did you expect Hanley to just mail the season in? He basically has nothing to play for this year, too. -THE DADDY
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 25 2008, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Marlins won 3 outta 7 agains the Mets in September, hardly "determined to keep them out of the playoffs". Did you expect Hanley to just mail the season in? He basically has nothing to play for this year, too. -THE DADDY</div> ... Forget this? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"I don't care if it's broke," said Marlins shortstop Hanley Ramirez, who left the game after being struck on the left hand by a pitch from Maine (X-rays showed the hand was not broken). "I'm gonna play tomorrow. [Screw] everybody on the Mets. I'm going to kick their [butts]."</div> Right, he had nothing to play for, but to say that publicly? Pretty ballsy. The following day the Marlins spanked Glavine for 7 in lessing than an inning to start off the game. I'm a big fan of guys that will play all out like that. I think it's pretty underrated. -Petey
