From 2001-2004, which top 5 draft pick (excluding Jay Williams) has been the biggest bust? Look at: performance, playing time, role on team (bench player/ starter), expectations coming into the league, coaching staff, veteran mentors, etc. www.nbadraft.net has a nice draft history. _______________________________________________________ I'm gonna have to go with Kwame Brown on this one First off, the comparison to Garnett. Take a look at who he was being compared to. Because of his height and age being similar to Kevin Garnett's, everybody thought he was the second coming of KG. Umm, not quite. Kevin Garnett has had court vision since he came into his league, Kwame's career high in asists per game is 1.5. Garnett has had good shot blocking numbers since his rookie season. Kwame had one season in which he averaged 1 block per game, every other has been below 1. The only similarity between Kwame and Garnett is that they both had their best season in their third year in the NBA. Problem is Kwame's third season was a 10.9, 7.4 rebound effort while Garnett had a 18.5 pt, 9.6 rebound campaign. Kwame has no jumpshot whatsoever while KG can step out to about 20 ft. Secondly, his attitude is terrible.... Think about when he first came into the league, he couldn't take the pressure of MJ's criticism. Also, why is that he takes longer this season to recover from injuries than other players normally would? I think it's an ego issue, because in games in which Kwame missed, the Wizards are a solid 22-14, while games in which he played they are only 12-13. Why is that they are actually better than the "cornerstone of the franchise"? Also, he hasn't shown the work ethic necessary to be a solid NBA player. He has been suspended numerous times by the time, and this season, he has already been quoted as saying that he is looking forward to next season. He is making excuses about his injuries, but in reality, he's had ample time to recuperate, but he just doesn't want to be on the court. Finally..... Just look at the rest of the 2001 draft class. You got really good guys who were picked after Kwame who are looking at very promising careers while Kwame's careers is very cloudy. Take a look at some these names:Tony Parker, Jamaal Tinsley, Sam Dalembert, Zach Randolph, Troy Murphy, my man Richard Jefferson, Joe Johnson, Jason Richardson, Pau Gasol, etc etc. Add to that list a couple of dudes in Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler who are very good in their own ways. When you think that out of this very strong draft class, that Kwame Brown was the top choice just seems like a very foolish pick. In conclusion...... As you can tell, there are tons of substantial information to back my statement about Kwame Brown. I have a hard time believing that there could be any other top 5 pick in the past few years to even be considered as much of a bust as Kwame
Darko Millicic at number 2 in 2003, Joe D thought this guy was supposed to be so good and now he doesnt do anything he just sits on the bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 1Billups1:</div><div class="quote_post">Darko Millicic at number 2 in 2003, Joe D thought this guy was supposed to be so good and now he doesnt do anything he just sits on the bench.</div> Well, I was going to say Darko, but I think that it's a little too early to tell.
sagna diop number 9 in 2001 draft i never even herd of this guy....wagner he was spoce to be a great sg did decent rookie season havent seen anything since then.
Yes Darko is a real bust, but its not entirely his fault. Larry Brown doesn't start Rookies. Come to think of it, he doesn't PLAY rookies. As a rookie, he already won a championship and has played (or should i say trained) with some great big men such as the Wallaces, Derrick Coleman, and McDyess. He has probably learnt alot from these guys, but has not been given the playing time to exercise what he has learnt. With LB jumping to NY, expect increased minutes for Darko. He might break out.
Darko wasn't suppose to come in and contribute immediately. In the draft he was labeled a project. For all we know he could become a great PF/C later in his career.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm gonna have to go with Kwame Brown on this one </div> So far yes, but it wouldn't be fair to call him a bust yet because he's making a fresh start in LA. Washington was the wrong place for him to be and he was constantly put under pressure from a very young age. I don't think Washington should really be counted as part of his career. To me, his career is about to start in LA. This season should really count as his rookie season. How he plays in LA will be a reflection of how he could have played in Washington if he wasn't put under so much pressure.
I'm gonna go with Darko on this one he was picked number 2, hopefully he can be good in the future but for now he is a bust.
im gonna say chris Wilcox this guy was drafted ahead of Amare and he hasnt amounted to much at all where as amare well he dosent need an intro.the clips are ruling the mistake they made.
and ofcourse Rafael araujo that was the biggest bust ever. too think off the people that were left when they made that choice.
Tskitishvili anyone? He's gotta be up there, although that 2002 draft had to have been one of the shallowest drafts ever. Is it to early too nominate Channing Frye?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ignignot:</div><div class="quote_post">Is it to early too nominate Channing Frye?</div> Dude, Frye won't be a bust, he'll just be an average player, IMO Charlie V will be the biggest bust in this years draft. IMO the biggest bust has been Darko Milicic, but he hasn't had a chance so it isn't fair to call him a bust, so I'll have to say Desagna Diop or Tskitishvili because they both were big players that were suppose to be good, I thought Diop was the next Shaq Maybe the Hawks will sign him, cuz he's better than anything they got right now at center
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, Frye won't be a bust, he'll just be an average player, IMO Charlie V will be the biggest bust in this years draft. </div> I know I know that was just a guilty indulgence. I don't really think he can be a bust with the expectations we have of him now. All he can do is exceed them and make us look bad.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ignignot:</div><div class="quote_post">I know I know that was just a guilty indulgence. I don't really think he can be a bust with the expectations we have of him now. All he can do is exceed them and make us look bad.</div> I don't get what ur saying. No one should have crazy expectations in their first year unless it's Lebron. Channing Frye will be a very good solid player, but your making him sound like he's the next Diop. He'll be more than a what u think he'll be.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't get what ur saying. No one should have crazy expectations in their first year unless it's Lebron. Channing Frye will be a very good solid player, but your making him sound like he's the next Diop. He'll be more than a what u think he'll be.</div> That wasn't my intention at all, I was just saying that, as of yet, the expectations for him were a little low, that's all. I was saying all he has to do is go out and play quality minutes his rookie year, and he's already beaten the 'bust' label.
The title of this thread cracks me up. How can you possibly call someone a bust after four or less seasons in the NBA? Some people have no patience with "projects". No matter how many times it's jammed down their throat through the years, people ignore the fact that coming from High School to the NBA is an amazingly tough transition. With a lot of these players, a change of scenery does the trick. After four years in the NBA, Jermaine O'Neal was averaging only 3.9 ppg and 3.3 rpg with the Blazers. He was then traded to the Pacers and started to become the All-Star he is today. A surprising number of All-Stars took a few years to develop. Two years into the league, Rashard Lewis was averaging 8.2 ppg, and McGrady was averaging 9.3 ppg. Three years into the league, Brad Miller was averaging 8.9 ppg and Steve Nash was averaging 7.9 ppg. After considering those stastics, consider the fact that Kwame Brown averaged 10.9 ppg in his third year. It's true that his numbers went down this year, but I'd consider this season a wash, because of his health issues. I really believe that he'll be solid in Los Angeles this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">The title of this thread cracks me up. How can you possibly call someone a bust after four or less seasons in the NBA? Some people have no patience with "projects". No matter how many times it's jammed down their throat through the years, people ignore the fact that coming from High School to the NBA is an amazingly tough transition. With a lot of these players, a change of scenery does the trick. After four years in the NBA, Jermaine O'Neal was averaging only 3.9 ppg and 3.3 rpg with the Blazers. He was then traded to the Pacers and started to become the All-Star he is today. A surprising number of All-Stars took a few years to develop. Two years into the league, Rashard Lewis was averaging 8.2 ppg, and McGrady was averaging 9.3 ppg. Three years into the league, Brad Miller was averaging 8.9 ppg and Steve Nash was averaging 7.9 ppg. After considering those stastics, consider the fact that Kwame Brown averaged 10.9 ppg in his third year. It's true that his numbers went down this year, but I'd consider this season a wash, because of his health issues. I really believe that he'll be solid in Los Angeles this season.</div> Hey, VC what's ur bust? Definetly must not be a Michigan State player .
