Politics "Black unemployment" and other Trump talking points that are false

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Then we have Donnie jr who posted a fake poll that were inflated for his daddy. The amount of lies and deceit that come out of that family is a joke.

    http://time.com/5364668/donald-trump-jr-fake-poll/
     
  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    btw, yes I know that all politicians lie or use stats and figures in a manner that promotes their ideas. But those politicians aren't currently president and really if you need to respond with "what about", start your own thread. :)
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That was fucking hilarious.
     
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    ...not just the UE rate, but the economy in general has been on the upswing for several years now and Trump still tries to take credit for that too.

    ...the so called "tax break" was largely targeted toward the very rich and toward big business...and when the fallout from the tariffs start driving consumer prices up, it will result in a wash at best, for the middle class.
     
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    Among other things, that poll showed a 90% approval rate for Mr. Potato Head. It did not show that the rate was for Republicans only.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Also, no one lies or exaggerates 1% as much as our moron President.
     
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    Don't worry, there is a plan to pay for the tax break. The plan is for future cuts in expenditures on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. It's a sort of reverse Robin Hood - rob from the poor to pay for the rich.

    I'd also like to point out that the parsimonious tax rate cuts for the middle and lower classes expire in ten years while the tax cuts for the wealthy never expire. I hope all this will get corrected expeditiously as soon as the new
    Congress is sworn in next January.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I think wages have been relatively stagnant for a couple decades now. Why haven't they perked up under our 'genius' President?
     
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    Another misleading and edited chart example by fake news.

    Inexperienced Obama took the rate from 12.7 all the way up to 16.8 in his first 14 months and it hovered in the mid-teens for nearly 6 years.

    He left it at 7.8 for Trump.

    Once business owners saw Trump the candidate had a shot, the job openings came back began.

    Once people realized the free lunch was ending with Obama's exit, they applied for jobs and went to work.

    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006

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    The true story is that Obama inherited an economy that was in the tanks and headed lower. Now, look how strong he's made it. The economy was well on the rise when Mr. Potato Head took over.

    The Black unemployment rate has improved through no fault of our Moron President who generally despises African-Americans whom he would't even rent apartments to in his buildings until he lost a relevant court case. Trump brought down the African-American unemployment rate? If you told that to ANYONE with accolades for journalism excellence, and that lets out anyone from Fox News, you'd be laughed all the way down the block.
     
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    Politics
    July 19, 2018
    Americans Say Economy Is "Most Important Thing Going Well"
    by Lydia Saad

    Story Highlights
    • Nearly four in 10 cite economy or jobs as nation's biggest positive
    • Social awareness ranks second, fueled by Democrats and Democratic leaners
    • Economic optimism at 14-year high in Gallup monthly poll series
    WASHINGTON, D.C -- The economy is Americans' top response when asked to name the "most important thing going well" in the U.S. today, showing the flip side of Gallup's list of the "most important problems" facing the nation. Economic factors are cited by 37% of Americans as what is going most well. The social climate, including social awareness, civic activism and the "resistance" movement, is the next-largest category of responses, at 17%, followed by the 12% saying "nothing" or "not much" is going well.

    Economy Tops Americans' List of What's Right in the U.S.
    What do you think is the most important thing going well in this country today? (open-ended)

    U.S. adults
    %
    Summary categories
    The economy/Low unemployment
    37
    Social climate/Civic participation/Resistance 17
    Nothing is going well/Not much 12
    National conditions (freedoms, education, no war, low crime, etc.) 11
    Government leadership/policy (Trump, military, border control, tax cuts, etc.) 10
    Other 6
    No opinion 7
    100%
    Based on first mentions; see table at end for detailed responses by category
    Gallup, July 1-11, 2018
    Eleven percent of Americans cite a specific aspect of national conditions, such as freedoms, education, lack of war or reduced crime as the most important thing going well in the country today. One in 10 mention a specific aspect of government, including their belief that President Donald Trump is doing a good job (mentioned by 4%) and various government policies, such as the military, border control, deregulation and tax cuts.

    The full list of issues associated with each category of responses is shown at the end of this report.

    These findings are from a Gallup poll conducted July 1-11. The question was asked in order to shed light on why Americans' broad satisfaction with the direction of the country has increased in recent months into the mid- to high 30s. While consistent with the historical average for this question since its inception in 1979 (37%), the 35% to 38% satisfied each month since May is well above the average 27% found in 2017 and is the most positive sustained level of U.S. satisfaction since mid-2009, the first year of Barack Obama's presidency.

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    U.S. Economic Confidence Also Fairly Strong

    According to the poll, 55% of Americans believe U.S. economic conditions are excellent or good, and the same percentage perceive the economy to be improving.

    The average net-positive score from these two questions (+30) ties with last month's result as the highest level of economic optimism Gallup has recorded in its Gallup Poll Social Series (GPSS) surveys since January 2004, when it briefly hit +33. The last time economic confidence stayed at this level for two or more consecutive months was in the fall of 2000.

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    Gallup tracked Americans' economic confidence monthly using its GPSS surveys from October 2000 through December 2008, and then annually each April from 2009 through 2017. In January 2018, the questions were reinstated as a monthly feature of the GPSS series. Gallup had measured economic confidence on its daily tracking poll from 2008 through 2017, though those results did not always match the GPSS results, likely because of differences in survey context.

    Partisanship Colors Economic Views, Satisfaction

    With the Republican Party at the helm in Washington, D.C., as well as in the majority of state houses, Republicans have a much rosier view than Democrats of how things are going in the country.

    Perceptions among Republicans and independents who lean Republican of the most important thing going well are dominated by the economy, with 53% mentioning something in this category. Meanwhile, only half as many Democrats and Democratic leaners agree, while about as many think the social climate (including civic involvement and the resistance movement) is what's best. Further, far more Democrats than Republicans, 18% versus 4%, say nothing is going well in the country.

    Partisan differences are even starker with respect to U.S. satisfaction, as 68% of Republicans versus just 9% of Democrats say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the country. Roughly eight in 10 Republicans versus about a third of Democrats rate the economy positively on each of the two economic dimensions.

    Republicans Positive About the Economy, While Democrats More Subdued

    Republicans/Lean Republican
    Democrats/Lean Democratic
    %
    %
    Most important thing going well^
    Economy
    53 26
    Social climate/Civic involvement 10 26
    Nothing 4 18
    National conditions 8 12
    Government policies 17 4
    Other 3 8
    No opinion 6 7
    U.S. satisfaction
    Satisfied
    68 9
    Dissatisfied 31 89
    Current U.S. economic conditions
    Excellent/Good
    78 36
    Only fair 19 45
    Poor 3 19
    Direction of U.S. economy
    Getting better
    85 33
    Getting worse 11 60
    ^ Based on first mentions to open-ended question
    Gallup, July 1-11, 2018
    Bottom Line

    The economy is not an obvious problem in the minds of Americans right now, and is in fact what many consider the best thing going well in the country. This may go a long way toward explaining why U.S. satisfaction has recovered from the more negative levels of the past decade.

    Still, the data tell the familiar tale of two Americas.

    Republicans and those who lean toward the president's party feel highly positive about national economic conditions and identify the economy as a starring success, while Democrats and Democratic leaners feel more ho-hum about it.

    With Democrats more focused on complaints about national leadership and various public policy concerns as the nation's top problem, they are more likely to see public awareness and activism -- presumably against the Republican administration -- as the best thing going on, or to see nothing good at all.

    Survey Methods
    Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted July 1-11, 2018, with a random sample of 1,033 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting.

    Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 70% cellphone respondents and 30% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods.

    View survey methodology, complete question responses and trends.

    Learn more about how the Gallup Poll Social Series works.

    Summary of Things Americans Say Are Going Well in the U.S.
    What do you think is the most important thing going well in this country today? (open-ended)

    U.S. adults
    %
    Economy (37%)
    Economy (general)
    23
    Employment/Jobs/Wages 13
    Stock market/Retirement accounts 1
    Foreign trade/Balance *
    Social climate/Civic participation (17%)
    Social awareness/People engaged in politics/Civic participation
    7
    People are coming together/Less divisive 5
    The resistance/Activism/Protests 2
    Ethics/Morality/Religious influence 1
    Less racism/Diversity/Equality 1
    More respect for each other/Civility 1
    Nothing (12%)
    Nothing
    12
    Not much *
    National conditions (11%)
    Freedoms (general)
    2
    Education 2
    Peace/Not at war 1
    Better than it was/Going well (general) 1
    Crime rate down/Law enforcement/Gun control 1
    Science/Technology 1
    Entrepreneurship/Innovation 1
    Less poverty/hunger/homelessness 1
    Healthcare *
    The media *
    Democracy/Belief in the Constitution *
    Less terrorism *
    Beautiful place to live/It is the United States/Patriotism *
    Environment *
    Government leadership/policy (10%)
    Trump doing good job
    4
    National security/Military/Defense 2
    Foreign affairs 1
    Immigration/Control of borders 1
    Deregulation/Less government involvement/Capitalism 1
    Tax cuts *
    Supreme Court/court system *
    Federal budget/Federal debt *
    Other 6
    No opinion 7
    Based on first mentions; * Less than 0.5%
    Gallup, July 1-11, 2018

    and...

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/239192/small-business-owners-optimism-record-high.aspx
     
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    Trump's approval rating still continues to hover around 41.7%. Not good.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Care to tell us who Lydia Saad is and why she is credible?
     
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    Better than some, worse than others.

    Congress hovers around 9%, so he's awesome in comparison to his opponents.

    It's a popularity contest, a measure of people's perception, which is presented to them by the biased media.

    It's no measure at all of how good or bad he is at his job.
     
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    There needs to be a "Trump" tag for threads. We've reached that point.
     
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    Trump's tweet is 100% correct.

    Lowest black unemployment rate in US history!

    So...this thread is just more fake news misdirection from the left.

    Why isn't Lanny demanding Julius to tell us who this dweeb twitterhead John Fuglesang is and why we should care what he says?!
     
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