Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Forthright, Jun 23, 2022.
He’s got springs, good handle and a great touch. Curious how it looks in a 5 on 5 setting.
The blazers still haven’t really released much of him. Can’t wait until summer league.
Are we 100% sure the dunk highlights of him aren't secretly on a 9 foot hoop?
Look at Ant! Enough said. If Dame puts time in with this new kid, I see an even higher ceiling!
His turn-around fade away is certainly Kobe/Jordanesque. We will see if he can do it in a real game. I have super, SUPER high expectations for this kid. He has it all, just needs to put in the work and put it together. I LOVE his pace and feel for the game. So smooth, so coordinated, such a freak athlete. I'm beyond stoked!
so excited to see what he does in SL
...I don't know if this little anecdotal story I have to share is relevant to the sentiment of "holding them back", but during Bartons rookie season I attended a home game vs Memphis and this was a prime example of Stotts neglecting to give young guys burn in a meaningless game. Barton had played really well in the few moments he got during the first half and Matthews was out there on a hobbled ankle that appeared to be re-aggrivated in the 2nd half. Now keep in mind, Memphis was winning by double digits the whole time and there was absolutely no playoff implications...so what did ole Terr Bear do??? He played Barton ZERO MINUTES in the 2nd half and left Matthews out there most of the 3rd and 4th quarters limping around.
I believe this is the type of scenario that a lot of fans started to take issue with. Why in the world would he not let Barton play? Especially after playing well in the 1st half...it seems like this was the perfect time to let him develop more during such an inconsequential game
Stotts was a dumbass. I could have coached Dame to the first round.
Similar story for me. Nas' first start he was shutting down Siakam until leaving with his 4th foul late in the 3rd quarter. Siakam proceeded to torch Hezonja in the 4th quarter. Nas never came back in and Stotts left Hezonja on him. Blazers lose.
While I don't think it's appropriate to use one game out of a thousand as proof for/against something, I do think Barton is the strongest case for being "held back" by Stotts. But if we point to 1-3 examples of him holding a player back over 10 years, you can also point to 1-3 young guys who played well under him. I don't think the data backs up Stotts getting the most out of young guys or holding them back, I just see it as a narrative.
Your "ride the hot hand" argument is also one I find to be very weak, because the data would say if Player A has been better than Player B all season, they're still more likely to have a better 2nd half, even if Player B had a better first half.
Stotts was a fine coach and Billups appears to be one as well. No need for made up narratives to prop up one or pull down another.
I know you don't actually believe this, but it's crazy to think some people here actually believe they'd be a better coach/GM/ref etc.The Dunning–Kruger effect is everywhere, but in sports, it is a wild one.
Good looking shooting from the 1v1 clip, but all the shots moving to his left are not super impressive..
The turnaround fadeaway though, moving to his right...wow. He's got it.
He certainly passes the eye test.
We haven't had a rookie look this smooth in a long time
It’s just a bombastic way of illustrating that I think any coach could hand Dame the ball and say, “go score points.”
The problem is - there's 5 players on the team.
Stotts did a good job of bringing all the role players together and over-performing their individual talent.
The issue was it took him and the team time to get there. Always the 2nd half of the season.
And in the playoffs....couldn't adjust quick enough.
Chauncey MIGHT have the capability to adjust in clutch times.
Release the krakken!!
I remember this. Way to psychologically fuck your young guy's head up. Stotts was awful. No wonder why nobody wants to hire him as a head coach.
Barton might be the best example of being held back, like Tince said, but he's also a counter-example. Again... Stotts got players to out-perform expectations by around year 3, regardless of how he handled their game minutes early on. Barton fits that trend, as well. "Put him in the game, coach!" and development aren't always the same thing.
Where it gets weird for me is, Stotts made young guys earn his trust, but veterans could do nothing to lose it.
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