<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>ESPN -The new rule that says players must be at least one year removed from high school before entering the NBA is "the worst thing that's happened to college basketball since I've been coaching," says Texas Tech coach Bob Knight.In the Big 12, it might be called the Kevin Durant Rule after the Longhorn freshman who has electrified the entire country and leads the conference in both scoring and rebounding. Instituted last year by the NBA, it means that super-talented players must wait at least a year rather than jumping into the pros right out of high school."Because now you can have a kid come to school for a year and play basketball and he doesn't even have to go to class," Knight said Monday during the Big 12 coaches call. "He certainly doesn't have to go to class the second semester. I'm not exactly positive about the first semester. But he would not have to attend a single class the second semester to play through the whole second semester of basketball."That, I think, has a tremendous effect on the integrity of college sports."Knight said he would never have recruited Durant, although he doesn't blame Texas coach Rick Barnes for doing so. "I don't fault those that have, because it's within the rules," Knight said. "But the rules are just ridiculous, the way the thing is set up.""It's just a tremendous disservice, the way that it's structured, to the integrity of college sports."</div>Source: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/447...nimum_age_rule/I think he has a valid point, and I'm sure this kind of things happens all the time regardless (not saying it is definitely happening in Durant's case or whatever).Thoughts? Do you agree/disagree with his comments? Do you think the NBA should adopt a rule similar to the NFL's rule where a player must be three years removed from high school?
3 years? I don't agree with one year 3 years would be a joke.Stop making stupid rules Stern or who ever let them come out of high school geez this is stupid. Oden+Durant would be in the NBA already maybe. And they would have more time in the NBA. It's not right if they have the skills to go straight from high school to the NBA why keep them from doing that makes 0 sense. Lebron has a chance to be better then Jordan and he went straight out of high school.
I don't think it's a terrible rule. What Bobby Knight is saying is a little bit extreme. I'm not saying he's wrong, but it seems unlikely to me.I do think a better alternative to the rule would be to accept or deny players based on their athleticism. No player is going to stay more than one year in college if they don't want to.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Feb 19 2007, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>3 years? I don't agree with one year 3 years would be a joke.Stop making stupid rules Stern or who ever let them come out of high school geez this is stupid. Oden+Durant would be in the NBA already maybe. And they would have more time in the NBA. It's not right if they have the skills to go straight from high school to the NBA why keep them from doing that makes 0 sense. Lebron has a chance to be better then Lebron and he went straight out of high school.</div>huh, WTF are you talking about? I think they should do what justice said.
Bobby Knight has a good point, but this is the only way to make the players happy and colleges happy. You can't please everyone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Feb 19 2007, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>huh, WTF are you talking about? I think they should do what justice said.</div>I mean Lebron has a chance to be better then Jordan sorry and he came out of high school. I don't see why the rule was changed that you can't come out of high school to begin with.
LeBron is talented, but he still has other areas to improve on such as leadership and defense. Being in a college program like DWade could have helped him on his way to being the best instead of throwing him into the NBA at 18. College experience can be important for any player. I think LeBron would be doing better had he gone to college. Only reason I'd like them to just keep it to one year is if the player's family really needs the support from the NBA paychecks and just can't afford to have the player not get that money for an extra 4 years.
But for every LeBron James that comes out of high school straight to the NBA, there are two or three Ndudi Ebi's....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Feb 20 2007, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But for every LeBron James that comes out of high school straight to the NBA, there are two or three Ndudi Ebi's....</div> Tons of college players come in and suck, tons of big NBA prospects in HS go to college and suck...it doesn't matter what group, some players just don't make it...Most HS'ers that failed were NBA 2nd rounders that jumped because they needed the money. There have been very few first round HS busts. I don't think you put the rule in place because Doody Ebi is an idiot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Tons of college players come in and suck, tons of big NBA prospects in HS go to college and suck...it doesn't matter what group, some players just don't make it...Most HS'ers that failed were NBA 2nd rounders that jumped because they needed the money. There have been very few first round HS busts. I don't think you put the rule in place because Doody Ebi is an idiot.</div>But it's far better for the player to get something out of the college experience such as a degree to fallback on at least. Or better yet, develop their games. I'm siding with bigmo on his comment. There can be great players coming out of high school as we've seen, but it does not hurt them to attend college. As a whole, it's more beneficial for players and NBA teams overall.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Feb 20 2007, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But it's far better for the player to get something out of the college experience such as a degree to fallback on at least. Or better yet, develop their games. I'm siding with bigmo on his comment. There can be great players coming out of high school as we've seen, but it does not hurt them to attend college. As a whole, it's more beneficial for players and NBA teams overall.</div> In a perfect world thats all nice and good...A lot of these kids come from impossible situations and they have to make money for their family, they can't look ahead and see what a degree might give them in the future unfortunately, many of these kids had sh*tty educations and wouldn't do well at all in college anyway. When your a top 25 prospect and you have the chance to make $500,000 by making it in the draft, your family can barely make ends meet, your mom has 4 kids to take care of and she works 2 jobs...the college experience is just another road block. I understand the NBA's view, it's better for the NBA in general, but I understand the HS athletes view as well. I'm not real opinionated either way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I understand the NBA's view, it's better for the NBA in general, but I understand the HS athletes view as well. I'm not real opinionated either way.</div>I understand it as well, in addition some of these high schoolers are risking injury at college and feel they could blow their chance at guaranteed money now. But I just think the standpoints of the player and everyone involved is better long term if they go to school. That's just me though. And obviously, people do their own thing and prove me wrong(by going directly to the NBA and proving to be far successful had they gone to school).
There is no way they should make it more then 1 year removed from high school. NBA has been turned into a joke with all the rules at some point enough is enough.
I would want players to go to school to 4 years..the thing is I'm too anxious for that for guys like Lebron to come out because they're already NBA ready..but look at Tim Duncanquite possibly the best PF of all time...basketball wasn't even his dream as a kid..he just went to 4 years of college and was really talented
I can see 2 reasons to this.Stern made this rule to make high school kids go through school and get a better education. Stern wants them to mature more in college. He doesn't want no bullsh** people who are faggots aor considered thugs in the NBA.Then u let them in after high school.More fans would come to their games becuase the hype of Oden and Durant in high school might attract more fans. They will get better and know the life of the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Feb 19 2007, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But for every LeBron James that comes out of high school straight to the NBA, there are two or three Ndudi Ebi's....</div>Oh noes, Ndudi Ebi is screwed fo lyfe!Oh wait, no, he still made lots of money in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Then u let them in after high school.More fans would come to their games becuase the hype of Oden and Durant in high school might attract more fans. They will get better and know the life of the NBA.</div>What? I don't see how high school hype would attract more NBA fans. I think we've seen besides Lebron, most high schoolers take time to develop. No one is coming out and making an impact straight out of high school right away. So I don't see how fans would flock to see a player not destined to reach their potential until year 2, 3 or 4. Or possibly never.
Just food for thought: Players coming straight from high school have the highest average PER of any class in their rookie season.
^^ Yeah because guys liek Lebron, Kobe, Garnett make those averages soar through the roofI'm sure they also have the highest rate of players who are forced out of the NBA because they can't handle it after their rookie contract is upand im sure they have the highest numbers of turnovers per game of any class
