Bobcats may want Sean Williams

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Here's a snippet of todays NY Post

If the Bobcats are unable to satisfy my Paper Clips, the backup plan is to pursue lesser lights like the Nets' Sean Williams. Judging by the 6-10 sophomore's lack of daylight, he's someone the Nets feel they can do nicely without.

Sources say Charlotte would be willing to give up Matt Carroll (owed five years, currently $5.05M; ending at $3.5M) and take Trenton Hassell's two-year obligation ($4.3M/$4.3M), as well as Williams' two-year debt ($1.52M/$1.63M) off New Jersey's books.

 

[JCB]

Interesting. This move would essentially be in opposition to what the team is trying to do (clear up cap space for 2010), but Carroll's salary is front-loaded. Definitely intriguing.

 

[Belarus]

wow. I'd do it in a heartbeat. Caroll is a good shooter - exactly what this team lacks if Carter doesn't make a basket. Also we'd cleared a logjam of bigs.

 

[NOMAM]

What? No way the Nets give up Sean Williams and hurt their capspace for 2010 for Matt freak'n Carroll.

 

[BrooklynBound]

No thanks.

 

[uptown4784]

I don't like the trade. Man put stro instead oof sean

 

[Netsfan318]

*wipes ass w/ proposal*

I'll tell you what add Augustine and we can talk.

 

[Carter15Nets]

LOL at these clowns wanting Matt Carroll

5 FREAKIN years left on contract at 25 million remaining

4 PPG a scrub, yes he can shoot but who gives a crap at that deal...hes garbage he has a little fluke run to get that deal, and Jordans a moron when it comes to making deals or drafting.

we giving up hassell who only has 2 years 8 mill left and sean williams who has value at 1.5 mill

get real people

Matt Carroll or LeBron James lemme think

 

[Belarus]

Hey, just for the record, "clown" is in your pants, sucker.

 

[nets1]

matt carroll is a great shooter and i would have no problem with that casue we lose Haskell and swat who clearly isn't ready for prime time for a solid bench player who will help the nets inside outside game a lot.

pull the trigger thorn.

Carroll would help immediately while you won't see anything from sean for a while.

 

[Hayabusa]

I hope he gets traded for HIS sake. He's a Net second and an athlete first. An athlete wants to play, period. For all you people reading this post with the power to get the deal done PLEASE, get Sean in and get him playin....consistantly. If another team gave him the opportunity to play more, I can promise you that one of his best games would be against the Nets....Please trade him. I dare you......
From, An athlete.

 

[kobimel]

No way. Carroll's contract is horrible and he won't do anything more than Hayes or Simmons are already doing.

 

[Netsfan318]

matt carroll is a great shooter and i would have no problem with that casue we lose Haskell and swat who clearly isn't ready for prime time for a solid bench player who will help the nets inside outside game a lot.

pull the trigger thorn.

Carroll would help immediately while you won't see anything from sean for a while.

Did you steal Sean's stash or something ?

 

[Claud]

Carrol has a very bad contract.
Put in Augustine in the deal and we can talk again

 

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[GMJ]

Here's a snippet of todays NY Post

If the Bobcats are unable to satisfy my Paper Clips, the backup plan is to pursue lesser lights like the Nets' Sean Williams. Judging by the 6-10 sophomore's lack of daylight, he's someone the Nets feel they can do nicely without.

Sources say Charlotte would be willing to give up Matt Carroll (owed five years, currently $5.05M; ending at $3.5M) and take Trenton Hassell's two-year obligation ($4.3M/$4.3M), as well as Williams' two-year debt ($1.52M/$1.63M) off New Jersey's books.

 

[GMJ]

wow. I'd do it in a heartbeat. Caroll is a good shooter - exactly what this team lacks if Carter doesn't make a basket. Also we'd cleared a logjam of bigs.

 

[Claud]

Lmao.

 

[Belarus]

allright, my eyes hurt now

 

[reganomics813]

You pay for shooters, especially one of Carroll's caliber. He's also a guy who can bring the ball up and makes the smart pass. He's not Raja Bell type defender by any means but the dude works his ass off and Frank would adore him.

 

[kobimel]

You pay for shooters, especially one of Carroll's caliber. He's also a guy who can bring the ball up and makes the smart pass. He's not Raja Bell type defender by any means but the dude works his ass off and Frank would adore him.

Why trade for a shooter if we already signed two players in the offseason to do his job?

 

[Dumpy]

This tradwe would do nothing for the Nets. I'm all for trading Sean, but this would be akin to giving him away. The Nets need a PG, pure and simple.

 

[reganomics813]

Why trade for a shooter if we already signed two players in the offseason to do his job?

You can never have enough shooters and Carroll is better at that than either of the two guys we signed. If you put him in for the same minutes Trenton is getting then I see it as an upgrade.

For the record, i'm not saying i'm all that excited for this deal but I get why this idea is being floated about. It's another quality person addition who could help us offensively at an area of inconsistency for us for two guys we would like to get rid of.

A number of teams are looking for a 3rd string pg making trading for one pretty tricky as teams like Memphis are holding out for the best possible deals. This could be a reasonable if-all-else-fails type of move, one that could also free up a spot and allow us to sign Hodge/Gill or another FA 3rd string PG if we still wanted to go that route as well.

 

[SportsTicker]

You can never have enough shooters and Carroll is better at that than either of the two guys we signed. If you put him in for the same minutes Trenton is getting then I see it as an upgrade.

For the record, i'm not saying i'm all that excited for this deal but I get why this idea is being floated about. It's another quality person addition who could help us offensively at an area of inconsistency for us for two guys we would like to get rid of.

A number of teams are looking for a 3rd string pg making trading for one pretty tricky as teams like Memphis are holding out for the best possible deals. This could be a reasonable if-all-else-fails type of move, one that could also free up a spot and allow us to sign Hodge/Gill or another FA 3rd string PG if we still wanted to go that route as well.

It would do two other things IF the Nets feel comfortable taking on that much salary in 2010 (which I strongly doubt) and believe Sean Williams is a lost cause, at least here (which I don't doubt): it saves them money this year--about a half million, and frees up a roster spot that can be used for a third string point guard. It might not sit well with a couple of players signed over the summer players who were forced to either accept a buyout provision or a team option in 2010. That would include Dooling, Najera and CDR.

 

[reganomics813]

It would do two other things IF the Nets feel comfortable taking on that much salary in 2010 (which I strongly doubt) and believe Sean Williams is a lost cause, at least here (which I don't doubt): it saves them money this year--about a half million, and frees up a roster spot that can be used for a third string point guard. It might not sit well with a couple of players signed over the summer players who were forced to either accept a buyout provision or a team option in 2010. That would include Dooling, Najera and CDR.

Those 3 guys are pros. Of the three, Dooling is the most likely candidate to get flustered but Carroll won't have much effect on his role with the team. By 2010 Najera will in all likeliness be gone and if all goes to plan CDR should be firmly planted in our rotation and on his way to a nice extension. I know we're looking to have a bare payroll by then but it's not like Carroll's contract will be the toughest sell Thorn has ever had to make.

 

[kobimel]

You can never have enough shooters and Carroll is better at that than either of the two guys we signed. If you put him in for the same minutes Trenton is getting then I see it as an upgrade.

For the record, i'm not saying i'm all that excited for this deal but I get why this idea is being floated about. It's another quality person addition who could help us offensively at an area of inconsistency for us for two guys we would like to get rid of.

A number of teams are looking for a 3rd string pg making trading for one pretty tricky as teams like Memphis are holding out for the best possible deals. This could be a reasonable if-all-else-fails type of move, one that could also free up a spot and allow us to sign Hodge/Gill or another FA 3rd string PG if we still wanted to go that route as well.

Any player would be an upgrade of Trent Hassell. I don't see why he's getting PT. Hayes and Simmons may be inconsistent and I know you can never have enough shooters but why bring in another guy who'll just take minutes from CDR? Also, we signed those guys for one reason: because they can shoot the ball, as streaky as they may be. Bringing in another shooter who plays their exact same position and has their exact same faults (bad defense) won't do much to improve the team and willl only add another long term contract which we don't need.

 

[nets1]

maybe i'm missing something here but has cdr ( who may turn out to be a good player) done anything since the regular season started? He's not a factor yet, and may not be until a month or two down the road, if at all. Carroll is a real solution on many counts. One helps break up the logjam at pf, gets rid of 2players for one back that we can use. Helps the current bigs now get more playing time thus continuing their development. And gives the nets a real nice shooter who won't hurt the team. He is a better shooter than boki, a current ryan anderson, and Yi right now. They may be better down the road but right now are streak shooters at best. Carroll is a shooter who is consistant now.

Plus Carrolls contract will be an asset the nets can deal away down the road, he will still have value and maybe in two years his contract will be considered a bargin to other teams.

 

[reganomics813]

Any player would be an upgrade of Trent Hassell. I don't see why he's getting PT. Hayes and Simmons may be inconsistent and I know you can never have enough shooters but why bring in another guy who'll just take minutes from CDR? Also, we signed those guys for one reason: because they can shoot the ball, as streaky as they may be. Bringing in another shooter who plays their exact same position and has their exact same faults (bad defense) won't do much to improve the team and willl only add another long term contract which we don't need.

Again, I completely understand that perspective and that's why i'm not exactly thrilled with the idea. But we are also trying to stockpile talent as well. In my opinion, our team is success lies in the fact that we are 10 deep and versatile to matchup with whatever the opposing team throws at us. CDR will play because he can guard players Carroll cannot and there will be instances where Carroll is what we need over CDR. Turning two guys who are non factors into one who could be on the floor during a final possession while addressing our 3rd string pg need through free agency is a considerable thing to think about.

 

[kobimel]

Again, I completely understand that perspective and that's why i'm not exactly thrilled with the idea. But we are also trying to stockpile talent as well. In my opinion, our team is success lies in the fact that we are 10 deep and versatile to matchup with whatever the opposing team throws at us. CDR will play because he can guard players Carroll cannot and there will be instances where Carroll is what we need over CDR. Turning two guys who are non factors into one who could be on the floor during a final possession while addressing our 3rd string pg need through free agency is a considerable thing to think about.

True, but would you really rather have Gill handling the ball against true NBA defenders than Vince Carter? I think VC as the 3rd PG is good enough for the handful of games Harris will miss this year.

 

[reganomics813]

True, but would you really rather have Gill handling the ball against true NBA defenders than Vince Carter? I think VC as the 3rd PG is good enough for the handful of games Harris will miss this year.

I'm not a big Gill fan and i've always said VC's the closest thing we have to a point guard we have on our roster so if I had to choose of course i'd rather it be in Carter's hands.

It is also a long season and we need a serviceable guy to come in and spot some minutes if anything were to happen to Vince, Devin or Keyon. I'm talking a guy who can buy some bench time in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and I have a hard time believing we'll find a 3rd string PG who'll be anything more than that.

Gill belongs in the D-League but he does have experience, knows our team, and can help our kids on the sidelines while always being ready when his number is called. Eddie would only be signed as insurance and play sparingly against 2nd string competition at best. If for any reason Gill is out there against starting caliber PG's that's Franks fault. If something better comes along, he's pretty easy to get rid of as well.