I'll take Bonzi too. He is a unique player. He has a mid range jumper, but that isnt what sets him apart. Bonzi has the rare ability of an inside game for a guard. He backs people up, uses his athleticism and scoresd inside. Thats a very unique and precious trait. Even though Raja is the better shooter and defender, Bonzi also scores more, so I will go with Bonzi. Although the tables could turn if Ron Artest hires someone to take Bonzi out lol.
This is easy to me. Bonzi. He can play down low, he's tougher, a better rebounder. He can initiate his own offense, he doesn't just spot up. As we saw against San Antonio, he can actually dominate a game. I look at him as a poor man's Paul Pierce.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 12 2006, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is easy to me. Bonzi. He can play down low, he's tougher, a better rebounder. He can initiate his own offense, he doesn't just spot up. As we saw against San Antonio, he can actually dominate a game. I look at him as a poor man's Paul Pierce.</div>
Raja is a piece of sh*t pussy scrub who flops. All he can do is hit the wide open shot Steve Nash creates for him. His defense is overrated because he guarded Kobe in the playoffs. Early in the season Kobe dropped 40 and 50 on him twice. He he can barely keep up with his man, and he's not as strong as people think.Bonzi by an outerspace mile.
Stop just coying someone's post to raise your post count, Lakerfan. You do that alo. And that is the worst spam that I can think of in my book.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jul 12 2006, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raja is a piece of sh*t pussy scrub who flops. All he can do is hit the wide open shot Steve Nash creates for him. His defense is overrated because he guarded Kobe in the playoffs. Early in the season Kobe dropped 40 and 50 on him twice. He he can barely keep up with his man, and he's not as strong as people think.Bonzi by an outerspace mile.</div>lakers fan.
Raja is my favorite player so this is tough for me. I'd say Raja's D is better. His defensive stats there aren't as good as Bonzi's, but he does a better job on his guys. I love how he flops and gets the other player mad. Sometimes it takes the other guy out of the game, he gets in their head. I rarely saw him make mistakes on the defensive end too and he can steal the ball.Now Raja's offensive #'s are a little better but I'd call Bonzi a better offensive player. Raja has better %'s and makes less turnovers, but like others said, Bonzi can post up because he is bigger than Raja and can also get rebounds. He also dominated in the Spurs series so it would be hard to say Raja is better on the offensive end even though he did do a great job shooting the 3 for the Suns and got some 20+ point games.I haven't seen Bonzi that much so I can't judge him on this, but Raja played with so much heart during the playoffs and was clutch for us in the Clippers series. He is a hard worker. And Raja really hasn't had any problems with any teams he's been on unlike Bonzi. He only got praise from his past coaches.This is a tough choice for me. I'd say they are about even depending on what you really would want. A good man-to-man defender and better shooter or a guard who can rebound and post-up.But I have to pick one and I'd like to say Raja because of what I said in the 3rd paragraph but considering how they are both the same size(Yahoo said they are) and Bonzi can play like a much bigger player i'll say he's better, but I'd really rather have Raja on this team. He fits in perfectly with the Suns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stop just coying someone's post to raise your post count, Lakerfan. You do that alo. And that is the worst spam that I can think of in my book.</div>yea, cb4 I posted that before I was informed it was considered spam.Anyway IMO Bonzi wells is my pick over raja.Like arya said all raja does is flop and hit open shots that nash creates for him.I do give credit to raja for hitting those shots but he's really not that important to the sun's offense.If raja gets injured the suns would be fine and win just as many games as they would with him.With guys like boris diaw and barbosa and tim thomas last season,bell really isn't vital to the team,and he never was even when he played in utah,dallas or phily.He's just a backup shooting guard who did well in mike dantoni's offense with steve nash running it.Bonzi wells on the other hand WAS vital to sacramento when healthy all season long especially the playoffs.In the first round against the spurs the kings would not have won 1 game if it werent for wells.Bonzi played his best basketball of his carear in those playoffs and had monster performances while artest played decent but hardly like an all-star.Bonzi Wells over Raja in a heartbeat.
I think it's closer than the Laker fans are making it sound, but thats obviously understandable. I think Bonzi has the edge because of how unique he is. He's a good rebounder, and really, if he wanted to could shoot around 60% from the field because of his ability to go inside and play the mid range. However, Raja is a good defender, and a better shooter. But he just doesn't have the same ability to take over a game. In my opinion Raja is a solid role player, Bonzi is a legit second scoring option.
I like Bonzi in this comparison.He is a good shooter, like Raja, but I think he brings more to the table on defense. He is a more physical defender than Raja and a much better rebounder. Raja is a better player in a fast break offense, and is a bit quicker, and a little more atletic then Bonzi. Raja can score from downtown better, and when he is found for an open jumper.Bonzi is better at slashing and getting offensive putbacks and rebounds to score. That with his defense, and his jumper makes him better than Raja IMO.
I'm biased, but I'd say Bonzi has it pretty convincingly. I can understand why teams may take Raja first because of Bonzi's reputation as a headcase. Bonzi's just a better all-around basketball player, period. Raja probably has him in shooting and defense, but Raja could never come and dominate a game like Bonzi can on some nights. By the way, I think Raja's shooting is a bit overrated. A lot of his shots are wide open. That's not a knock, but it isn't like the guy is Jeff Hornacek either.
His 3-point shooting in his whole career is still 7.5% better than Bonzi anyway. Counting when he played in Philly and Utah...He only did a little better with Nash. And he did shoot a lot more(3.5 more attempts) and he still raised his percentage. Now when he was counted on to shoot more he just showed what he could do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jul 14 2006, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His 3-point shooting in his whole career is still 7.5% better than Bonzi anyway. Counting when he played in Philly and Utah...He only did a little better with Nash. And he did shoot a lot more(3.5 more attempts) and he still raised his percentage. Now when he was counted on to shoot more he just showed what he could do.</div>So I guess because he is a better 3 point shooter he is a better player...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 14 2006, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So I guess because he is a better 3 point shooter he is a better player... </div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jul 13 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raja is my favorite player so this is tough for me. I'd say Raja's D is better. His defensive stats there aren't as good as Bonzi's, but he does a better job on his guys. I love how he flops and gets the other player mad. Sometimes it takes the other guy out of the game, he gets in their head. I rarely saw him make mistakes on the defensive end too and he can steal the ball.Now Raja's offensive #'s are a little better but I'd call Bonzi a better offensive player. Raja has better %'s and makes less turnovers, but like others said, Bonzi can post up because he is bigger than Raja and can also get rebounds. He also dominated in the Spurs series so it would be hard to say Raja is better on the offensive end even though he did do a great job shooting the 3 for the Suns and got some 20+ point games.I haven't seen Bonzi that much so I can't judge him on this, but Raja played with so much heart during the playoffs and was clutch for us in the Clippers series. He is a hard worker. And Raja really hasn't had any problems with any teams he's been on unlike Bonzi. He only got praise from his past coaches.This is a tough choice for me. I'd say they are about even depending on what you really would want. A good man-to-man defender and better shooter or a guard who can rebound and post-up.But I have to pick one and I'd like to say Raja because of what I said in the 3rd paragraph but considering how they are both the same size(Yahoo said they are) and Bonzi can play like a much bigger player i'll say he's better, but I'd really rather have Raja on this team. He fits in perfectly with the Suns.</div>Yeah, that's what I said Lakersfan...
If I wanted a scorer/rebounder than I'd take Bonzi Wells. If I wanted a 3 point shooter/defender than Bell is my choice. It depends on your teams needs but I think Bell is an easier player for chemistry purposes because he can spread the floor out which is key to the what the suns do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jul 14 2006, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, that's what I said Lakersfan... </div>lol my bad I didn't get that post for who you picked bonzi or raja.Anyway I already chose wells
