Would you trade Ike Diogu and Pietrus for him? Im sure Toronto has Bosh labeled as untouchable, but to get a Future PF to replace him and a good young SG would be enticing.
Very tempting. As much as I love Pietrus and Diogu, Bosh is a stud I'd want. But considering he's going to get a huge contract and with the warriors payroll bursting, it's not going to happen. How about Murphy + Picks for Bosh?
I don't think Toronto would ever bite at mere prospects for their proven stud big man, unless it's a situation where they won't be able to sign him in the off-season (I don't think that's the situation though). I don't think that they'd bite on the second idea either, though GOD I would love it: Murphy + picks + whatever for Biggidy-Biggiddy-bah-bah-bah-Bosh! Oh yeah I'd do that in a heartbeat. He's the perfect fit for this team.
I don't think Toronto would do it unless Bosh wants out, in which case that may be an ideal offer for them (along with probably a pick). I would do it though if given the chance. He is the athletic, post scoring, big man we've been dreaming about for over a decade. Ike and Pietrus are nice but I wouldnt pass a dominant post player up if we didnt have to give up J-Rich or Baron.
Bosh is a 4, a star ready to happen, but still a 4. No way Toronto makes that deal. Why is it that every deal is one superstar for two weaker parts? That's not how deals are made.
I'd be more apt to deal generously for Okafor,who could play C,adds D. The price to get Bosh will be high,possibly too high,as he does not have the beef to be used at C. Dwight Howard has the size but unlike the Bobs,the Magic are over-cap so saslary matching becomes a factor. Orlando may not be a contender,but they are also not bottom feeders..and after having swapped Shaq and T Mac in the past,I'd think they would not deal a young star again. However,they have done the unexpected before...so????
I just watched Bosh play the Kings and no way would I want Okafor over him. The kid can flat out play. He's already a star, most people just haven't seen him yet. Man, he has it all.. on both sides of the court.
The only chance the Warriors have getting Bosh is when he's a free agent. Other than that there's no way Toronto will accept a trade of Ike Diogu and Mike Pietrus. Just look at his numbers and ask yourself if you'd accept that trade. Probably not.
Saw Mihm make some good moves over Ben Wallace early last night. Where's the Warriors' middle of the road 7 footer? Biedris? Mihm is servicable if they give him the ball and he gets some confidence. Warriors have never been able to come up with some middle of the road center after Clifford Ray, wait there was Joe Barry Carroll ("he got one more rebound than a dead man"). Thereafter, its been undersized all the way, Vic Alexander, Gatling, Webber, Foyle. Seikaly was good for half a year and Damp for half a year. How about just a Will Purdue? Kaman? Even Haywood looks good from here.
I think Kaman is very good, he's a double double man, can score and rebound very well. Also is a good shotblocker, better than Foyle this year. Also, he shoots FT's at 77%! Well no matter how much Toronto wants to not trade Bosh, they are forced to think about it sooner or later. Either he stays with Toronto or he leaves as a FA. And if he leaves Toronto loses out on some good trades. So unless they are totally sure Bosh is going to stay, they need to be open to trades.
Rookies are extremely tough to leave their teams, because of the current CBA. Teams can resign their rookies at 3rd year, while the only way for rookies to leave their teams are to wait for 5 years. If you are talking about max rookies like Bosh, teams will dangle the max extension starting from year 3, and no rookie and his agent will refuse to take that max contract, while risking major injuries or sub par performance for two years, just to take lesser and shorter contract, which is not even guaranteed. That's why not only we haven't seen any max rookies leaving their first team, we also never heard of legit trade rumor for those rookies. Only major rookie leaving their first team (as far as I remember) is Curry, and it's because of his heart problem. If Toronto wants to resign Bosh, they will sign them, and they really don't need to hear any phone call asking for Bosh...
Our need,since forever,or at least back to N Thurmond,has been to upgrade at center. At the 4 we have Murphy,Diogu,Zarko and maybe 3 others we can use if needed,yet Adonal is still starting at C. On a team with any otther talent,Bosh probably would avg 4-5 points lower,which is still pretty good stuff. He's still young and rising,he's a bit slim to be a true power guy. There are other teams who ALSO will want him,who have little at PF,who will drive the price up if he's on the block. The team that does get him probably is the one dumb enough and desperate enough to overpay...by a lot. When it comes to a center with a lot of game,a lot of future,we will line up with the dumb and desperate and make offers that may knock us clear back to mid lotto for a year. With luck,Mully may stumble into some very unexpected thing where we get C help without collateral damage that screws us over.
