Bosh's Discontent a Sign He Walks

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  1. Shapecity

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    if he doesn't want to stay in toronto the raps can still sign and trade him right? he can't just walk way.
     
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    Correct. The Raptors can offer him the most money and match any other contract he signs.
     
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    wrong. he can walk away and take lesser if he wants but the raps can pay him something like 30 million more over the life of the contract and they obviously have his bird rights so the cap doesnt matter to the raps. although, if he and his ppl believe he can make that 30 million up and more in ancillary income in a big market american city- he can abandon the raps with nothing in return and thats a real possibility. and as for his comments- he's been saying that for the last 6 years, nothing to be alarmed about.
     
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    You're wrong. The Raptors can match any deal he signs for next summer. The only way Bosh can leave is signing a 1 year deal this summer and then leaving as an UNrestricted free agent in 2011.
     
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    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q36

     
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    I think Bosh has a player option this summer and he can become a UFA by terminating his contract.

    Miami has the cap space to sign him this summer, that would be where I'd be headed if I were Bosh.
     
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    and he's already indicated that he will opt out to cash in big.

    as for miami- no way unless wade leaves. why? first, they already have beasley at the four and the kid is really good. i dont know if u had the chance to watch him play but the kid has special skills- his off the court antics can be attributed to immaturity and i think with age he will grow a ton. and back to wade- bosh's has said that he wants to be the undisputed number one guy on a team, tacitly dismissing any notion of playing with lebron or wade in the process. he's said that on repeated occasions and him voicing that desire has become more vociferous in the the last year or so.

    top 5 options in my opinion: 1) toronto 2) new york 3) new jersey (which i would choose if was him 4) houston depending on their cap situation 5) chicago
     
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    jersey would be my pick too. Brook Lopez/Bosh/Harris? Lee, CDR, and Terrance Williams supporting teammates? that's a pretty good team.
     
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    You're correct Deception. I thought the final year was a team option not player. I'd be tempted to deal him if I'm Colangelo.
     
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    plus a top 3 lottery pick and an imminent move to brooklyn. that team wins like 5 nba championships, especially if they can parlay lee, cdr and maybe the lottery pick for a stud wing player to close out games. i would maybe pursue oj mayo and mike conley in that scenario so u would be looking at a starting five of: brook lopez, bosh, whoever, mayo and devin harris.
     
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    adding bosh to the current nets wins 5 nba championships? get that shit out of here.
     
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    I don't care what Bosh does later this year, last time i checked, the calender hasn't even hit 2010 yet.
     
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    can u read? adding bosh with a stud winger which is possible with the assets they have (lee, cdr, top 3 lottery pick) plus the development of brook lopez and devin harris can win u 5 championships. brook lopez is already the second best centre in the east.
     
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    Bosh would play the 5 for Miami. They're playing J. O'Neal there now.

    Joining Wade would be a hell of a lot better than joining a horrible team with a draft pick.
     
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    bosh cant play the five, its a laughable suggestion if u have ever watched his game for prolonged periods. in fact, in his first year- he played the five sporadically then he went public with his frustrations about playing the five. also, if u look at the charlie v for ford trade with the subsequent drafting of bargnani- colangelo did it because he believed bargnani would be a "Varejo" type player defensively and assume minutes at the centre and he thought charlie v was a duplication of bosh at the four. that isnt an assumption, no, it was colangelo's public rationale after the trade in explaining it to a fanbase who loved charlie.

    JO is a lot more formidable at the five than bosh and JO's knee problems have prohibited him from playing at the four because he cant move laterally anymore to guard the quick 4's like bosh, dirk, aldridge, etc. also, as aforementioned- bosh on more than one occasion has said he was a number one guy and that he doesnt envision himself being a number two behind lebron and wade.

    i personally think amare is a much better fit for miami because he actually plays the five and has demonstrated himself to be a good one. how about dwade in chicago? thats a lot more probable than bosh in miami. dwade is a chicago guy and a core of derrick rose, wade, deng and noah is really good.
     
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    terrible team? its the nba- a team is always one player or two away from being a contender. if devin harris and brook lopez played for the cavs- they would be their second and third best players behind lebron. plus, both are very young and should get better, particularly brook lopez who is already the second best centre in the east.

    imagine a team of bosh, devin harris, brook lopez and stud wing player (e.g. mayo)
     
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    if i were the raptors, i'd much rather sign-and-trade him to the nets, than getting nothing in return (well duh)

    but deception is right, that nets team really isn't as bad as their record indicated. Honestly, they're a star away from being a contender. Brook Lopez is only getting better, and so are the parts to that team (Lee, Terrence Williams, Douglas-Roberts, Harris). Add Bosh and i'd be willing to bet that team can go real deep in the playoffs and even go toe-to-toe with the Magic, Cavs, and Celtics.
     
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    You need something like Kobe+Gasol+Odom before a young guy like Bynum (or Lopez) help you over the top.

    Nets have nobody close to the first three - maybe Harris is on par with Odom (and I do like Odom a lot).

    Wade+Bosh+Beasley is at least a reasonable imitation of those Lakers.

    Miami doesn't really play a center anymore. O'Neal is 10 pounds and an inch bigger than Bosh but scores and rebounds quite a bit less. O'Neal is about the same size as Beasley, too.
     
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    your first three points are conjecture but so are mine i guess. but JO is a lot bigger than beasley. i dont know what beasley is listed at but i believe he was measured at the combine at 6 foot 7 and JO is a legit 6 foot 10 and he's has longer arms as well. but its not about what position u can play offensively, its about what position u can defend. JO simply does not have the lateral quicks to keep the modern nba four in front of him after his knee injuries.

    bosh is not going to sign with miami, u can put that to rest. i assure u of that eventuality for the reasons i stated previously.

    odom vs. harris? harris is arguably the third quickest guard in the league behind chris paul and tony p and odom is consistently inconsistent. plus, he's a bench player and harris plays 35 + minutes and he's younger as well. i would take brook lopez over bynum, i know laker fans are going to have an ulcer over that and im going to be attacked for that comment but the facts are this: he's not as injury prone, generally a more stable and mature dude, a better back to basket player, more refined offensively with his mid range game and statistically averages more points, rebounds and blocks than bynum.
     

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