Brad Miller To Utah?

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  1. PacerB53

    PacerB53 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Free-agent center Brad Miller's future in the NBA will become clearer in the next 48 hours.

    Miller, an Eastern Conference All-Star with the Indiana Pacers last season, has been offered a six-year contract worth about $52 million from the Utah Jazz.

    "We're talking to people, and we're hoping to come to a resolution soon," said Mark Bartelstein, Miller's Chicago-based agent.

    The Pacers have been attempting to clear room to re-sign Miller, but likely will not have enough to match Utah's offer that averages $8.7 million a year. Miller made $5.3 million last season.

    Denver also is interested in Miller, having interviewed him on Friday and Saturday.

    The Jazz have become a major player by virtue of John Stockton's retirement and Karl Malone's departure to the Los Angeles Lakers. Malone made $19.5 million and Stockton about $8 million last season.
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    http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/4/0...2-2274-116.html

    Please don't leave Indiana Brad...
     
  2. Ghost

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    Utah would be overpaying him.
     
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    To bad for Indy, he was a good center.
     
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    The Pacers still want to sign him from what I've heard. They just need to clear cap space.
     
  5. Sasha

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    That really stinks for Indiana, and for him too. There is not much he can do in Utah now.
     
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    I think Utah are overpaying him but if they dont get him they wouldn't of got anyone in Free Agency and they could of got anyone. The Nuggets can't match what Utah offered(link to source of that information NBA.com). However Carmelo said he wanted to play with Rodman. But Brad Miller would be the 3rd big white Center on Utah(Miller,Tag,Borchardt). That means the end of John Amaechi if he's signed [​IMG]
     
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    I still cant believe the payed him that much.
     
  8. mike18946

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    Thats too much...pacers could be in trouble without miller inside..
     
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    O neal will probly have to play center. Eventually there wont be a center in the east each line up will have 2 power forwards.
     
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    Why would they be in trouble? In the east all you need really is one legit post threat, and the Pacers have the best post threat the east has to offer. If they wish to make the finals and have a chance to win then losing Miller will have an effect, but right now it will be a big loss, but nothing that will hurt the Pacers too much.
     
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    They could be in trouble as losing both miller's could mean a low seed and and the first round exit....
     
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    It's not like Miller lifted them to a first round victory when he was with Indiana. No one in the east still has a post threat to match the capabilities of Jermain O'Neal. Now they can put Jeff Foster in at center who is more than capable of holding his own in the east. I don't think it will have much affect on the seeding because the Pacers are still one of the deeper teams in the east. Maybe now they will try to make a little run at Elden Campbell.
     
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    Anytime you lose a player giving you 14 and 8..that made the allstar team will hurt you...JO is getting overpaid...he is a very good player but he can't carry a team on his back ALONE....he needs help..brad miller was that inside help that helped draw attention away from JO...
     
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    Huh? JO is a player a team can rally around. He improves every year and this next year should be no different. How is he overpaid? He's the best post player the East has to offer and one of the better PF's in the whole league. He deserves the max. Losing Miller will just mean more production from a guy like Al Harrington (if he isn't traded), or Jonathan Bender, or Jeff Foster. It will have an effect to lose Miller but not that great of an effect. Also, how would he be carrying the team on his back alone? Last time I checked the Pacers have plenty of help for O'Neal.
     
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    Jo from what i heard is now on a 126 million contract for 7 years...he is getting more than tim duncan..that just isn't right..

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Also, how would he be carrying the team on his back alone? Last time I checked the Pacers have plenty of help for O'Neal.</div>

    I said inside help...pacers have talent but brad miller was an allstar for them..a guy who would give you 14 and 8 every night..and takes some attention off O'neal....maybe it's Thomas fault pacers have not gone far...JO is an excellent player that has yet to go anywhere...
     
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    and the Pacers have frontcourt players who can step up and make up for Brad Miller's production. They're just that deep in the frontcourt. So what the teamed signed him to more than Tim Duncan. I'm guessing that has something to do with the age in which they signed their contracts, or maybe the Spurs couldn't afford to give Tim the extra four million. How is that O'Neals fault? He produces and he gets paid whatever management sees fit. This past year was only his second year of being the go to guy on the team, that's not a whole lot of time to get something done.
     
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    Of course it's not JO fault...any player would take money like that...pacers have talent...but what pure centers are like miller on their roster? none...they will miss him more than you think....
     
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    What pure centers are in the league now period? A lot of guys now are just power forwards thrown into the center spot.
     
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    Thats why they will miss him alot more than you think..he is one of the pure centers left in this league...he helps JO alot inside...as teams know they can't just focus on O'neal..
     
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    Even without Miller teams know they can't just focus on JO because there are still other offensive threats on the team. Like I said, guys like Al Harrington and Jonathan Bender will step up their performances. Maybe they can put JO back at center, which won't help or hurt him much, and plug Harrington into the starting lineup. That duo would be more effective then Miller/JO.
     

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