Bulls vs. Bucks Thread

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  1. Vintage

    Vintage Defeating Communism...

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    <font color="Red">Bulls Probable Starters
    C- Eddy Curry
    PF- Tyson Chandler
    SF- Jalen Rose
    SG- Kendall Gill
    PG- Jamal Crawford
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    <font color="Purple">Bucks Probale Starters
    C- Daniel Santiago
    PF- Joe Smith
    SF- Tim Thomas
    SG- Michael Redd
    PG- TJ Ford
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    Key Matchups:
    Michael Redd's offense vs Kendal Gill's defense:
    Redd always torches the Bulls from outside. It will be up to Gill to harass Redd into tough shots and deny him the ball, since Pippen is out. If Redd goes, so does the Bucks, which means a Bulls loss. If Redd is stopped, things get murky for the Bucks, in which the post game will take over, giving Chicago the advantage.

    Donyell Marshall/Marcus Fizer vs Smith/Gadzuric
    Marshall and Fizer always show up for the Bucks. They play well, and feast inside. For some reason, they play better than the more 'hyped' players in Curry and Chandler. Look for Chicago to get the Milwaukee big men in early foul trouble. If that happens, Chicago will relentlessy pound it inside, and exploit Milwaukee's interior.

    Skiles vs Rose and Crawford
    Skiles' first game as a coach will be interesting to watch to see how notorious ball hogs Rose and Crawford respond to him. Skiles isn't the type to let things slide. He will pull Rose and Crawford out if he believes its for the better. How will Rose and Crawford handle an aggressive coach?

    Prediction:
    Bucks 97 Bulls 85
     
  2. Ed!

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    If the bulls can pound it inside i guarantee we will win. Of course that is one of our few advantages, so if we dont the bulls will most likely lose

    BTW Vintage, why am i listed in your sig for that fan club?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">If the bulls can pound it inside i guarantee we will win. Of course that is one of our few advantages, so if we dont the bulls will most likely lose

    BTW Vintage, why am i listed in your sig for that fan club?</div>



    Some guy named obicent something IMed me and asked to be in my sig.....I thought that was you.


    But back to the thread......We usually pound it inside. But come 4th quarter, Rose and Crawford usually figure they haven't taken enough shots, and lauch at will. Our inside game is then abandoned, and we lose.

    Or we dont defend Redd, get behind, which apparently makes Crawford and Rose think they have to launch shots at will, thus making the lead larger for the Bucks, since neither are the shooter that Redd is.

    It will be interesting to see how Skiles manages this. He isn't on to stand for stupid shots.
     
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    At times Jalen jacks up shots at will, but alot of the time he gets hot in the fourth quarter and makes alot of shots. He will always take the same amount of shots in the fourth, we just gotta hope that they will fall



    BTW i think obicent is AZballa. i oughta change my name on this board
     
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    Guys I just think Bulls will win this 1st Skiles game, im wonderin whom will he give more minutes: Crawford or Heinrich ?


    prediction Bucks 84 Bulls 90:)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tifo_AC:</div><div class="quote_post">Guys I just think Bulls will win this 1st Skiles game, im wonderin whom will he give more minutes: Crawford or Heinrich ?
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    He might put em together in the backcourt at times. I think he is gonna start Jamal, but Kirk will get alot of minutes.
     
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    Jamal is a notorious ball hog? Last time I checked you had to shoot the ball to score. And since no one on the team is obviously scoring(since Jamal Crawford leads the team in ppg) I dont think you can call him a ball hog. 13 attempts per game isnt a lot at all. I guess Kobe, Mcgrady, Duncan, ect. are ball hogs to since they shoot the ball twice as much as Jamal.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting beasly3:</div><div class="quote_post">Jamal is a notorious ball hog? Last time I checked you had to shoot the ball to score. And since no one on the team is obviously scoring(since Jamal Crawford leads the team in ppg) I dont think you can call him a ball hog. 13 attempts per game isnt a lot at all. I guess Kobe, Mcgrady, Duncan, ect. are ball hogs to since they shoot the ball twice as much as Jamal.</div>


    He shoots less than 42% from the field? Is that not a problem for you?

    Second, Crawford is the PG. He is supposed to set the offense up. Get things flowing. Do you know how many times Ive seen Crawford come down the court and just launch shots, completely out of the offense. Its not a problem if you are a Kobe, a McGrady, or a Duncan.

    But he's not. He's a Crawford. He shots per game is lower than others, fine. But its the timing of his shots. Or the fact that he is shooting at a low percentage.

    He is nowhere near the league of the aforementioned stars. Too many times I have watched him try to take over a game, and fail. When his shots dont fall, he is useless. At least Kobe, McGrady, and Duncan can revert to defense, rebounding, or other aspects.

    Crawford exerts little to no effort defensively. And thats just no me saying it. Its hundreds of fans at other sites saying it as well.

    Thank god he wont be back next season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Thank god he wont be back next season.</div>
    Unless we sign somebody, we need him badly. with the loss of rose we need a scorer
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Unless we sign somebody, we need him badly. with the loss of rose we need a scorer</div>


    Keep in mind, I made that comment before the trade. I haven't had time to form a good conclusion as to whether or not I believe he will be here next year.

    Rough guess- Yes. But I can't back that up right now. It will depend on his play throughout the year, and whether or not him and Skiles see 'eye to eye.'
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Keep in mind, I made that comment before the trade. I haven't had time to form a good conclusion as to whether or not I believe he will be here next year.

    Rough guess- Yes. But I can't back that up right now. It will depend on his play throughout the year, and whether or not him and Skiles see 'eye to eye.'</div>
    My bad. At least he will play his natural position now (SG), which will allow him to live up to his potential
     
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    Yea, Jamal will probably better once he's playing shooting guard again. But, who will run the point now? If it's not gonna be him, I think you have to go with Gill. Hinrich makes too many mistakes, but, he is a rookie and all rookies make mistakes. But, back to Jamal. Yea, he's gonna be much better playing the shooting guard spot. He's a scorer first I think. Plus, now that Jalen is gone, he's probably gonna be the only person capable of taking his man one-on-one out on the perimeter. So, I actually think he will play better as a shooting guard. And it's like ObieCent said, it should allow him to play up to his full potential. Part of that potential was shown at the end of last year, so, hopefully he will go back to how he was playing at the end of last season, that will help Chicago tremendoulsy.
     

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