<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I was telling the wife the other day, whenever you see Jerry Buss, he's usually with someone who has a very nice body. She wasn't all that impressed, but now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen Buss with a fat person, or even someone pleasantly plump like Shaquille O'Neal a few years back, so I wasn't surprised when Buss dumped Shaq. Most people disagreed with Buss' decision to trade Shaq, and still believe he made a mistake ? blaming, of course, Kobe Bryant for that. (I think it goes without saying around here that if anything goes wrong with the Lakers, it's Kobe's fault, and it's probably Kobe's fault that everyone feels that way.) Now I happen to think Buss had it right when he looked at Shaq's body and decided it would give out sooner than later, and now thanks to Pat Riley's return, we're going to find out. "I think Laker fans are going to say, 'OK, let's see now who was right,' but to me it's obvious I did the right thing," Buss said, while watching his team take on Memphis. "I'd make the same decision 100 out of 100 times. To me, the risk-reward ratio wasn't there." Laker fans know what kind of taskmaster Riley can be, and how relentless he is in demanding the best in practices and games ? night in and night out ? and so now Shaq's body is going to be put to the test. "I know how [Riley] worked, but whether he's mellowed or not and will make some accommodations [for Shaq], I don't know," Buss said. "But I know what Magic used to say about Riley: 'You better be able to run the extra mile.' " Shaq scored 30 points in his first game for Riley, Riley making sure Shaq had the chance to dominate. "We're going to make him earn his money," Riley said, and I would have liked to see the reaction on the face of the Big Sensitive One when he read that in the paper. Shaq had two years remaining on his deal with the Lakers when he insisted on a contract extension for megabucks, which in part prompted Buss to trade him. "It was not only a question of whether the man was going to be in shape, but what were his true salary demands going to be," Buss said, while saying he still doesn't have a clear idea of what's involved with the reported $100-million, five-year extension Shaq signed with Miami. "I was looking at the number of games he missed over his career, and if he missed this many when young, wasn't it more likely he was going to miss this many when he was old? It was my simplistic calculation, but coupled with his salary demands it put me in an untenable situation." Once traded to Miami, Shaq got himself into South Beach shape, and finished just behind Steve Nash in MVP voting. A thigh bruise and an injury to Dwyane Wade sabotaged the Heat's playoff run last season. This year, Shaq broke down early, losing five weeks because of an ankle sprain. A sign of what is to come, or a fluke injury? "I love the guy, and if he plays until he's 42, God bless him," Buss said. "Some people think I had a problem with him because of things he said, but I called him several times wanting to sit down, have lunch and explain what I was thinking." Shaq never got back to Buss, and now he's going to be busy as Riley's workhorse. At season's end, if Riley is still getting big-time production out of Shaq, the Heat might compete for the NBA title, which would certainly rekindle talk that Buss let Shaq go prematurely. Kobe's fault, of course. A broken-down Shaq, however, who is unable to keep pace with Riley's physical demands and carry the Heat to the finish line, would certify Buss a visionary. My money is on Buss, and although the wife might disagree, knowing his eye for young talent ? I think you have to go with the experience he has when it comes to knowing just the right time to trade in the old for the new. I lack that experience.</div> Source
The L.A. Times is a Kobe hater and Shaq kiss a*s...I guess the writers in the L.A. times missed the part when Tex Winter admitted that Shaq always started conflict with Kobe and disrespected him at practices.....and Phil Jackson thinking that Shaq had more weight with Dr. Buss than Kobe.... in February when new negotiations ended with Pjax was because he demanded DR. Buss to trade Kobe or he wouldn't come back the next year. That's when Dr. Buss said then he was not going to need his services the next year and stated he will never trade Kobe. That is when Pjax tried to change his relationship with Kobe and Kobe did not buy it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">Trading Shaq wasn't the problem, what they got back for him was.</div> We can't say until the Lakers make their free agent move in 2007. Right now the deal favors Miami, but Odom has been improving the last 5 games, and Kwame Brown is starting to come around. Shaq on the other hand has already missed 15 games this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">We can't say until the Lakers make their free agent move in 2007. Right now the deal favors Miami, but Odom has been improving the last 5 games, and Kwame Brown is starting to come around. Shaq on the other hand has already missed 15 games this season.</div> Well until Kwame plays solidly for 20-40 games in this season I will say that he is a role player. So pretty much LA got a role player + Odom for Shaq. While Shaq has the benefits of attracting players, they got Mourning for practically free, they resigned Haslem for less, they got payton for free and however Shaq seems to attract Antoine Walkers as well. In the Shaq trade: Pros: Los Angeles Odom Kwame Brown (6ppg, 6 rpg, 0.42 bpg in 26.9 mpg) Cons: Less FAs drawing power Miami Pro: Shaq Mourning (10ppg , 8 rpg, 3.65 bpg in 27.8 mpg) Payton Cheap Haslem Cons: Antoine Walker
Sorry, but a lot free agents wanted to play for the Lakers, but the Lakers were not willing to spend past the 2007 year, so it really limited their options. Cap flexibility limited the free agent signings, it had nothing to do with Shaq. Lakers also saved $30M in luxury tax, and they still have the Heat's 2006 1st rounder. And of course the unknown 2007 player. Kwame Brown is definitely a role player, but he's making progress, so it's encouraging. You also need to add a couple of names to players the Heat didn't bring back. - Damon Jones & Keyon Dooling those are two cons you left out. - Another con, extending Shaq's contract. It assures the Heat will never be able to build around Dwyane Wade. The Heat have to win a championship otherwise this deal is a failure for them. They invested their future in Shaq and if he can't deliver a title, then it was a terrible deal for the Heat.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Well until Kwame plays solidly for 20-40 games in this season I will say that he is a role player. So pretty much LA got a role player + Odom for Shaq. While Shaq has the benefits of attracting players, they got Mourning for practically free, they resigned Haslem for less, they got payton for free and however Shaq seems to attract Antoine Walkers as well. In the Shaq trade: Pros: Los Angeles Odom Kwame Brown (6ppg, 6 rpg, 0.42 bpg in 26.9 mpg) Cons: Less FAs drawing power Miami Pro: Shaq Mourning (10ppg , 8 rpg, 3.65 bpg in 27.8 mpg) Payton Cheap Haslem Cons: Antoine Walker</div> dont forget J-Will he's always wanted to play with shaq
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">dont forget J-Will he's always wanted to play with shaq</div> He was acquired via trade, it wasn't his choice.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, but a lot free agents wanted to play for the Lakers, but the Lakers were not willing to spend past the 2007 year, so it really limited their options. Cap flexibility limited the free agent signings, it had nothing to do with Shaq. Lakers also saved $30M in luxury tax, and they still have the Heat's 2006 1st rounder. And of course the unknown 2007 player. Kwame Brown is definitely a role player, but he's making progress, so it's encouraging. You also need to add a couple of names to players the Heat didn't bring back. - Damon Jones & Keyon Dooling those are two cons you left out. - Another con, extending Shaq's contract. It assures the Heat will never be able to build around Dwyane Wade. The Heat have to win a championship otherwise this deal is a failure for them. They invested their future in Shaq and if he can't deliver a title, then it was a terrible deal for the Heat.</div> Very good intresting information.