Bye Bye Brandon Clause in New CBA?

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  1. e_blazer

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    If that happens, then I would think it would be pretty unlikely we see Brandon in a Blazers uniform again.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    yes, he'll probably be in a L*kers uniform for minimum salary.
     
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    The Blazers wouldn't use it for at least a year imo. Not convinced PA is ready to give up on him. He did give him that contract when he already knew the condition of his knees after all.
     
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    Then again I wonder if Roy could just restructure his contract? Blazers might try and do that instead if possible. Just don't think PA wants to give up on him.

    Also, as someone pointed out on BE, the Blazers could potentially use this on Oden. Sign him to a nice contract and if he doesn't stat healthy....cut his ass.
     
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    Hey, I posted that here a few weeks ago on the Amnesty thread! Those BE plagiarizers! Why I oughta...
     
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    There is no reason for Roy to restructure his contract since it sounds like cutting the player takes money off the cap/tax, but if the players are also in favor of it, then most likely the player still gets their full contract. So Roy will get all his money if he gets cut, plus potentially more depending on signing elsewhere.

    As far as signing Oden, too late. The Blazers don't have rights anymore. Then can match IF someone else offers a contract, otherwise, they can just offer the qualifying and after that single year, Oden is on the open market.
     
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    You're wrong. Blazers can sign him to multi year deal. That's what we did with Outlaw.
     
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    oh, dumb me, I knew that. long day. Thanks
     
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    If the owners/mgmt believe this amnesty will happen in a new CBA it does make planning a teams salary and future very important and interesting for teams like the Blazers who have a huge contract that might be able to come off the cap and lux tax books.

    After next season ends we'd only have 7 or 8 guys committed at a little less than 35 mil if Roy's contract is off the books. That includes Qualifying offers for Nic and Rudy at over 3 mil each and it includes Wallace's option (his choice at 10 mil). Interesting
     
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    No way the Blazers have the balls to do the right thing for the franchise and waive Brandion. Instead they will deal with the handcuffed salary, and thrive in their first round exits
     
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    Small market teams have got to be opposed to this being a regular thing: rich owners could keep making mistakes and then wiping them out to sign away other teams' best players.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well if the past is any kind of indicator of future behavior ...


    FML.
     
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    Well, I think the main point is that it appeals to the NBAPA and at least some of the owners. If you have an issue that two sides agree on in a negotiation where they don't agree on much else ... well, you can figure the rest out on your own.
     
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    Sighing because you agree with me, or think I am "just being negative"?

    There are just too many myopic fans out there that think Brandon is still "the man". He is the savior of the franchise, and to waive him would be cold. What they don't realize is that if they keep Brandon in this new CBA era, Portland will likely be cap strapped and have to make some harder decisions on players who are more productive, or will be more productive going forward.
     
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    You'd think they would be, but if in the end, it helps those small market teams turn a bigger profit, or just make a profit in general by getting something back in return from the NBAPA in negotiations, they might be more open to it.
     
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    Agreed. Hopefully it will be leverage though for Brandon Realizing he needs to transform his game, to go back to his roots of being Team first, and get his ego out of the way. It's obvious he can still play a vital role on this team, there's just some stuff in the way of him accepting a role that is different from the past.

    Sucks living in the past huh, doesn't leave you with much room for possibility for the future. Hopefully Brandon can get some help in putting his past where it belongs, so he can create something new with the Blazers. After all, he is the Rip City reviver.
     
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    lets be real, the owners will likely get some type of hard cap, Roy is simply way too expensive even if he can adjust his game and be somewhat productive, he should and will be let go if an amnesty clause becomes available. No emotion, no dislike of Roy, just simple common sense. He'll still get all his money.
     
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    After thinking about it, I'm not sure that it's necessarily in the Blazers' best interests from a cap standpoint to simply waive Brandon even if this new amnesty provision is adopted. Regardless of whether they keep or waive Brandon, they won't have any cap room next season. The following year, they're committed to around $39 million even without Brandon's salary. Assuming the salary cap comes in somewhere in the range of $45-$50 mil, if the Blazers re-sign Oden and do a couple of other moves this summer, they likely won't have any cap space the following year even if Brandon is waived. It would only really help by 2013-14 if the Blazers purposefully choose to keep salaries low so that they can play the FA market that year. I'm not sure that approach is consistent with the win-now attitude that PA is said to be pushing. Unless the Blazers can get a better player for free at the SG spot, I don't really see that waiving Brandon accomplishes much...other than placating his detractors, of course.
     
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    If there is a hard cap it gives us a lot more room, there will be a lot of vets like Roy available for very cheap as owners cut their overpaid players. It's a no brainer, Roy will be cut if that amnesty option is available.
     

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