Politics California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Beginning in 2018, California law will have harsher penalties for health care workers who address a senior transgender patient with the “wrong” pronouns than for people who knowingly infect others with HIV.

    California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Friday lowering the maximum penalty for knowingly infecting or exposing a person to HIV to six months in prison — down from a maximum of eight years. Also last week, Brown signed legislation allowing for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient.

    Democratic state Sen. Scott Weiner sponsored both pieces of legislation.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/c...-violations-than-for-knowingly-spreading-hiv/
     
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    Willfully and repeatedly. As in, not making a mistake, but deliberately mis-gendering a person.
     
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    Still not worse than willingly infecting people with a disease . . .
     
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    Jerry Brown has AIDS. thD53450HR.jpg
     
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    Calling a he a "she" or "it" is worse, obviously.

    Feelings matter, bro.
     
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    Says you
     
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    Someone who knowingly infects another indivudual with HIV, a potentially deadly disease, should be put away for a lot longer than 6 months. They are giving out a death sentence...they should get longer, in some circumstances, life
     
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    Holy fuck
     
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    Welcome to America 2017, fucking crazy land
     
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    I'm trying to find how this is enforced. Someone says I did it?

    Does there have to be a witness?

    How many times is willful?

    It is just so stupid it should be ignored.
     
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    Forget the pronoun side of it, why would Gov. Brown reduce the penalty for knowingly transmitting HIV, and by so much? @crandc , are the citizens of CA demanding that those who knowingly transmit HIV be given more lenient maximum sentences? Is there a groundswell of support for that population of sick folks who are wasting away in prison for an extra 7 years who should be back in society after a maximum of 6 months?

    On a side note, "stealthing" is, as we speak, being judged as rape due to its non-consensuality. Which means that pulling off a condom during consensual sex can get you placed in prison for life, but knowingly passing on HIV gets you a maximum--maximum!--of 6 months.
     
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    Please don’t include the rest of America in your remarks. That’s like including the rest of America in North Carolina’s stupid gender neutral bathroom debate. That’s NC stupidness, just as the topic of this thread is California’s stupidness. Those kinds of moronic thought processes are hereditary in those places. Just because both those states have their heads up their asses on those particular subject doesn’t mean the rest of us necessarily agree....
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The last time? Great.

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    There are an infinite number of genders
     
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    Wrong. Oregon and California share the same political leanings.
     
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    Not precisely. In California it is somewhat less common to blame all problems on "those damn Californians".

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    Yeah, we say "those damn Mexicans "
     
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    Are we going to start punishing people for saying "hey guys" when you walk into a room full of men and women too?
     
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