solve this colts D. He threw 4 picks vs it in regular season game, and it has played even better in postseason. My guess is brady costs the patriots the game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>solve this colts D. He threw 4 picks vs it in regular season game, and it has played even better in postseason. My guess is brady costs the patriots the game.</div> What about... Can the Patriots take advantage of Manning? He already has like 5 interceptions in the last two games.
Yea i think this game falls squarely on the shoulders of both QBs, Can Manning overcome the playoff hump against the Pats? Can Brady pull together another dominating performance on the colts in the Post Season? I dont know but it should be a damn good game!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>It will be a good game. Can Brees blow through Chicago?</div> Chicago is the Windy City.
Wow, i am surprised. Not one person is willing to post on thread to a legitimate football question. I expected the patriots fans to attack Chicago rather than talk about the fact the Colts D embarassed Brady in the first meeting. But I expected others on the board to at least comment on it. Oh well, i guess thats why every thread falls into the same BS discussions of personal attacks on me and the DWO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>i guess thats why every thread falls into the same BS discussions of personal attacks on me and the DWO.</div> You are an honorary member, so... Its hard to be as Indisputably great as we are... They are just envious. Believe me; the spin will start in earnest late Sunday afternoon.
Personally I think both Quarterbacks are going to struggle. Manning just hasn't played well this postseason and Brady struggled some against San Diego. However both made key plays when it counted and that's what's going to decide this game. Which QB can make the key plays in the 4th quarter? Brady is the easy answer because of the history of the two teams this decade but I think with Indy having the better players around Manning and having the best kicker ever, that will be enough to get them by. Game could either way though and should be good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, i am surprised. Not one person is willing to post on thread to a legitimate football question. I expected the patriots fans to attack Chicago rather than talk about the fact the Colts D embarassed Brady in the first meeting. But I expected others on the board to at least comment on it. Oh well, i guess thats why every thread falls into the same BS discussions of personal attacks on me and the DWO.</div> By making comments like this you're only objective is to insight personal attacks. Brady isn't the one who needs to prove anything here. It's Manning who has consistently failed in the playoffs, especially against the Pats. I know you & most people outside of NE would LOVE to see Brady fail. All the media attention he gets must make you sick. But it's not as if he seeks the attention like a certain #18. And yet Brady gets it done w/o a Harrison or a Wayne. Apparently in your eyes he does it with a weaker D as well. You should probably concern yourself with the Saints who are marching their way to Miami.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>It's Manning who has consistently failed in the playoffs, especially against the Pats. I know you & most people outside of NE would LOVE to see Brady fail. All the media attention he gets must make you sick. But it's not as if he seeks the attention like a certain #18.</div> I'll agree that Manning has more to prove but he's beaten his nemesis the last 2 times. Sunday will be crucial. I personally don't care whether Brady fails or not. Even if the Colts weren't my 2nd favorite, its time for a different combination altogether in the Super Bowl. I get the impression, Bakes, in your Patriot-centric world that you are bent about the attention Peyton is getting i.e all the commercials. Could it be that Manning is more photogenic, easier to deal with, has a better sense of humor, etc...? I believe Peyton is married. If not, it would not surprise to see Bridget Moynihan hook up w/ him. Yet, if she really wanted to upgrade then she'd go Dwo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I get the impression, Bakes, in your Patriot-centric world that you are bent about the attention Peyton is getting i.e all the commercials. Could it be that Manning is more photogenic, easier to deal with, has a better sense of humor, etc...? I believe Peyton is married. If not, it would not surprise to see Bridget Moynihan hook up w/ him. Yet, if she really wanted to upgrade then she'd go Dwo.</div> You can't possibly be serious? lol You don't think corporations all over the world beg & plead with Brady to sponsor their products? He simply doesn't care for the spotlight that is all. He has done a few ads, but it's clear he has his priorities straight. In case you haven't heard Brady has already upgraded to super model Gisele.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, i am surprised. Not one person is willing to post on thread to a legitimate football question. I expected the patriots fans to attack Chicago rather than talk about the fact the Colts D embarassed Brady in the first meeting. But I expected others on the board to at least comment on it. Oh well, i guess thats why every thread falls into the same BS discussions of personal attacks on me and the DWO.</div> By making comments like this you're only objective is to insight personal attacks. Brady isn't the one who needs to prove anything here. It's Manning who has consistently failed in the playoffs, especially against the Pats. I know you & most people outside of NE would LOVE to see Brady fail. All the media attention he gets must make you sick. But it's not as if he seeks the attention like a certain #18. And yet Brady gets it done w/o a Harrison or a Wayne. Apparently in your eyes he does it with a weaker D as well. You should probably concern yourself with the Saints who are marching their way to Miami.</div> I apologize for making a comment that didnt praise the golden calf that is Tom Brady. It was inappropriate for me to question his recent play vs colts, including the 4 INT performance. How dare i point out colts D has played better in playoffs than it was playing when he got intercepted 4 times vs it earlier in the season. I didnt say he needed to prove anything, merely analyzing the matchup from the standpoint of brady vs colts secondary. It is an interesting dynamic that wont get as much play as manning sucks in postseason. Obviously your complete and total bias prevents you from discussing or acknowleding it. Thats fine. Leave the thread. Start a thread about how manning struggles in postseason. Start another on how saints will destroy bears. This thread was created to discuss how brady will do on 2nd go around vs colts secondary, after his horrendeously ugly day first time around. I dont think he will play well. I would like to see what non-patriot fans think
The point is you only want to use stats that favor your agenda that Brady is overrated. So I'll provide you & rest of those interested the stats that counter your weak ass argument. Brady is 12-1 in the postseason, Manning 5-6. Brady is a perfect 10-0 in dome stadiums.
Brady is 23-1 on artificial turf, which obviously includes domes. He has trouble on grass for some reason and it shows. He slipped and had pressure on him a lot during the San Diego game and he threw 3 picks. Get ANY QB out of his comfort zone and he will throw picks. You should know that more than anyone with Grossman as your team's QB. Brady will have a much better game this time around because A) he doesn't normally screw up in the playoffs and he is playing on artificial turf unless Polian decides to put grass in there for a day. When Brady has a good game, the team normally wins so I am confident about this game. There is something about playing on artificial turf in domes that makes Brady play exceptionally well. I'm not sure what it is but the stats don't lie.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>The point is you only want to use stats that favor your agenda that Brady is overrated. So I'll provide you & rest of those interested the stats that counter your weak ass argument. Brady is 12-1 in the postseason, Manning 5-6. Brady is a perfect 10-0 in dome stadiums.</div> Like I said, the law of averages is bound to catch up to both eventually.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>Brady will have a much better game this time around because... A) he doesn't normally screw up in the playoffs and he is playing on artificial turf unless Polian decides to put grass in there for a day.</div> Yeah. I can't imagining a team all of a sudden decided to change playing surfaces. I guess its all about whatever is less wear & tear on (cough) snowplows. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure what it is but the stats don't lie.</div> Its like Mark Twain said, "There are 3 types of lies; lies, damned lies, & statistics"
The Patriots fans can recite all the history they want, but that won't win the game on Sunday. I believe the Colts victories over the Patriots in the two previous games just might help them from a psychological stand point. The Colts should see the Patriots as a tough, but beatable, opponent. This might be the game that letting Vinatieri and Branch go might come back to haunt them. Brady's stats this year have dropped slightly except in a couple of places. Brady's yardage dropped 500 yards despite throwing only 14 fewer passes and 15 fewer completions. Brady has 13 fewer passes over 20 yards than he did last year. How many catches did Branch have for 20+ yards the previous season? 13. Novice football fans always give the QB too much credit for success and too much blame for failure and ignore the fact that there are an entire team's worth of players to talk about. In this case, the Patriots glaring weakness lies in their poor WR corp. Only one guy has caught more than 50 passes (Caldwell with a blazing 61 receptions) and no one managed to break 800 yards or 4 tds. No one, who catches balls for the Patriots, is a go-to-guy which will make last minute game winning drives more difficult in my opinion. Top that off with Belichick's biggest mistake and that was letting the greatest clutch kicker in NFL history go to the team that they have to play this Sunday. Are the Colts going to have to play a good game to beat a very good Patriots' team? Sure. However, this Patriots team isn't a good as the Patriot teams that won the three Super Bowls and they are beatable. To top things off, the Patriots have been celebrating like they've actually won something already. I think the Colts, Payton Manning in particular, realize that they haven't won anything until they win the Super Bowl, which makes the Colts the hungrier and more focused team going into the game.
You want us to believe that you respect the Pats, yet you constantly imply that all they do is cheat to get where they are. So your view is clearly clouded in bias & an agenda. I've always been objective. I picked the Chargers to win last week. Had these 2 faced off last year in the postseason I would've picked Indy. This year the Colts have struggled. Prior to the playoffs their defense had taken a step back. Now the offense has been shaky. The Patriots haven't been perfect either, but they're a better team than the last 2 Colt's opponents IMO. They have a history of success in Indy & in the playoffs. 5-0 all time in AFC title games.
