Can't believe.......

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  1. 1honestfan

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    "Insiders at Oregon insist that Thomas was not guaranteed to come back as the starter for the 2012 season. Never mind that he's been the starter in two Pac-12 championship seasons. Never mind that he set a school record for career touchdown passes (66). Coach Chip Kelly plays the guy who wins the job, and as nutty as it sounds, there was a possibility that Thomas might return and not get all the snaps."

    Stated August 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, updated August 25, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    My evidence is starting to mount STOMP. Anytime you want to call it off I will so you don't look bad. Have some pride for yourself.
     
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    Honestly, that doesn't mean much without a link.
     
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    How about both of you guys give it a rest until AFTER the Rose Bowl. Instead of arguing over past history why not get excited for what is sure to be a hell of game.
     
  4. 1honestfan

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    You can just copy and paste the highlighted part of the direct quote into a google search and it will come up just fine. When I use both quotes and italics, it means that I have not altered the context in any way shape or form. For STOMP to call my quotes "Pretend" is a perfect display of him being an ass.

    It's part of my running joke AT stomp.

    Everything I have quoted can be found on the internet.
     
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  5. 1honestfan

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    I will do this if it bothers you. I just don't like being attacked for something that really isn't that outrageous by an over-zealous fan who lives in San Francisco? I have been a Duck fan since 1989.

    I will say that no one else except for STOMP is asking/inquiring/ or even challenging this issue. He's trying to plead to an audience while even one person came out and called one of his references "Fucking Depressing".
     
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    I really apprecitate DT as a person and as a Duck. I am only providing this video in retort to STOMP who still can not believe that the coaches have more insight into the program that he does.

    I hate using video like this because I believe that DT is a good person who doesn't deserve to be brought down like this. DT does admit that Mariota was and is better than him at the begining of this year. He also goes on to state that he could only teach MM not to get sacked and that he knew MM was special from the time that MM walked into the doors when MM was a freshman.

    [video=youtube;hJNkuzIcvMI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJNkuzIcvMI&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
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    exactly. Nothing he has provided comes remotely close to backing up his claims that Kelly called Darron into his office and told him Marcus would be the starter. In fact the last thing linked here (a Canzano POS that you had to provide) states exactly what I've claimed all along... that just like every year at every position under Kelly, there would be competition to determine who would start. No one was ever given a starting spot no matter what they'd previously accomplished. Once again it's a creative reading comprehension issue where 1honestfan apparently reads what he's hoping for rather then the words in front of him.

    As for me being an "ass"... I asked politely for a source/link in this very thread when he made them and was ignored. Wanting to get to the bottom of these amazing claims, a couple weeks later I asked a second time and added a "please". Nothing from me bordered on insulting, I just wanted to get to the bottom of it one way or another. But politely asking a second time was too much for 1honestfan and insults flew my way including that I was being an "ass". I responded in kind and we've gone back in forth with me asking repeatedly for his source and even offering $$$ because he stated "whats in it for me?" Throwing out nothing but Red Herrings and insults speaks for itself. Nothing but embarrassing empty claims & bluster here... move along people... it's another hoax

    I'm done with this nonsense as it has been conclusively shown to be what it seemed all along. Leaving this afternoon w/the girl & Pops for Pasadena... completely stoked! Go Ducks!

    STOMP
     
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    Have a blast! Make sure to dress warm, lol.

    I put the game thread in the Blazer forum because there will be more traffic there and people to post in it. http://sportstwo.com/threads/277213-The-official-Ducks-vs-FSU-Rose-Bowl-Game-Thread! If you have a chance post some pics in it before and after the game.
     
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    If Darron Thomas could run, we may have won a national championship with him. One of the slowest black QB I"ve ever seen in my life.
     
  11. STOMP

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    Of course he had no promises of retaining the starting spot, no Duck starter under Chip or Helfrich ever has been made such a promise. You've got to realize how completely different this is then what you first claimed... right??? If you can provide the quotes you claimed that... "Both Darren and Chip stated that Chip basically called Darren into his office and let him know that he was going to make Mariota the starting QB the following year", do it, because that would be big news. Otherwise, relaying that Chip was remaining true to his long stated policy of open competition for every spot including QB isn't news as it's exactly whats been repeatedly stated by me and others.

    Further, I'm sure that when you wade through your 4 TB's of video & confirm this, you'll find that you've no quote from Kelly or Thomas saying this lack of a completely unusual promise of remaining a starter is what led DT to declare. Rather, that will be the guess of the Jason Quick's of the world attempting to connect the dots so that they have something to "report".

    Good fucking grief what a waste of time

    STOMP
     
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    Keep barking........and keep trying to change the framework of your arguments.

    Just trying to help you out but did you know that the world isn't flat? Trust me, this is true; the world is more round than flat.

    I already have Chip Kelly AND Darron Thomas both saying that he (Mariota) was better than him and they knew it when he walked in the door. Now you are trying to say that I have zero basis for Chip telling Darron that he didn't have a grantee to start the next season; especially when it turns out that the guys that was right behind Thomas was the future Heisman winner, the guy that Chip stated that he knew would win the Heisman.

    I actually have several people on video stating that this even took place and when the time is right, im going to unload it on you. Then the funny part is that you are going to find ways to argue in why you won't pay me the money you promised.

    You do realize that both Bennett and Mariota were better than Darren Thomas; correct?

    Why would a coach embarass a player when he knows that he has two quarterbacks in his system that are better than DT? The question is; why WOULDNT Kelly tell DT that he has no qurantee to start the following year when he's a senior.

    I'm really trying to let you down easy. Can we please use some logic here?
     
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    Mariota was far better than Thomas no doubt, but I contend that Bennett should have a been a SAM linebacker and DT had way better pocket and passing ability than Brian. When DT decided to run all be it quite apprehensively, he did good things.

    Mariota is and will be almost impossible to compare anyone to hence forth! A great problem we will always have! :smiley-jumping:
     
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    link? Of course not, it's just more empty bluster...way past time to put up or shut up. For the umpteenth time, produce these mystery quotes from Kelly & Thomas you promise exist and stand 100% by (not the 2nd hand crap you're lamely attempting to bait and switch with) and I'll pay up the generous amount that I've offered. Again, no player under Kelly/Helfrich has had such a promise/guarantee to start like you're claiming MM did. Dion Jordan had to earn it just like Ifo, like LaMichael, like Clay, Matthews & Hronis... every single season even the greats had to win that honor...& Mariota had to as well.

    Hey look! It's a new Darron Thomas article with quotes from him on why he left where he calls Bullshit on what you're trying to sell

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/...s-thomas-bennett-remained-linked-with-mariota

    gee, who to believe?

    STOMP
     
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    Who cares, both DT and Marcus have lead us to the championship game in under 5 years! Let's focus on the GREAT DUCK TIMES LESS THAN A WEEK AWAY!!!!! Truce till after we win our first! This is a DUCK BOARD FIRST!!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Who cares? Obviously I do & I'm sure others do as well. We come to this Duck board for info regarding the team we love to follow. If someone comes in with obvious bogus info regarding the team, it's not an act of war to ask for some sort of source... I first asked for this source a month and a half ago. I don't know about you, but I can out this crap today and still root for the team to beat OSU 5 days from now

    STOMP
     
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    STOMP is right. And that's the last time you'll see me say that.
     
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    You remind me of parents who besiege their children with empty threats. "Don't make me count to 3, or you're really going to get it! 1...2...2 and a half...2 and three quarters..."
     

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