Carroll Dawson has made a lot of bad deals. He was the one that traded for Eddie Griffin, traded for James Posey who was more bad than good. I would like to see him fired.
I have to disagree. You cannot blame Dawson for the Griffin deal. Any GM in their right mind would have taken that deal if it was offered to them at the time. Nobody expected Jefferson to be develop as well as he did in the time that he did. The fact of the matter was at that time, it was in the best intrests of the Rockets to make that trade. They took a gamble on Griffin's off the court issues and unfortunately they lost. There is no way in hell you can blame Carrol Dawson for that. The Posey trade like the Griffin trade was a good move for the Rockets at the time. Before the trade they were overloaded at the PF spot. By making the trade, they were able to add to gain a good wing player that would help give them protection at the SG and SF positions(something they needed). At the time both of the trades above were in the best intrest of the Rockets. Carrol Dawson made a good move with both trades I think. He is a good GM and I want him to stay as the Rockets GM.
Have to agree with Dex on that one. Not only Dawson, but Rudy T. was very excited to be getting Griffin. The idea then was that the Rockets had stolen a lottery pick who had limitless upside. Many thought Griffin would turn into a Reef type pf who could slash, had good range, and could crash the boards, and someone who had good D to boot. The Posey trade was a decent trade, but one which I didn't like initially. It took minutes from Rice, which in the end was better since he couldn't always handle tons of minutes. And it dumped Kenny Thomas assuming that Griffin was the pf of the future. If they had known now that Griffin would fubar, the Posey deal would not have gone through.
True. Griffin was considered to be a steal at that time. However, the rockets were already stacked at the PF spot with Kenny Thomas and Mo Taylor at the time. I think it would have been wiser to have kept the three picks. They could have turned out to be Jefferson, Randolph and Tony Parker!!
No. The picks were already made before the trade took place. The Rockets chose Jefferson, Collins, and Brandon Armstrong.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">No. The picks were already made before the trade took place. The Rockets chose Jefferson, Collins, and Brandon Armstrong.</div> I believe that those picks were made by the Rockets on the Nets' behalf.
I didn't know that they had talked about the deal beforehand, but that would make sense, since the Nets would be getting the three guys they wanted. That doesn't mean the Rockets would have chosen those guys(I know you're not saying they would have), but I guess it would have been nice if they had. A Francis, Mobley, Jefferson, Randolph, Ming lineup, with Parker coming off the bench. That would be tight.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't know that they had talked about the deal beforehand, but that would make sense, since the Nets would be getting the three guys they wanted. That doesn't mean the Rockets would have chosen those guys(I know you're not saying they would have), but I guess it would have been nice if they had. A Francis, Mobley, Jefferson, Randolph, Ming lineup, with Parker coming off the bench. That would be tight.</div> Yeah, I'm with you on that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting franchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">True. Griffin was considered to be a steal at that time. However, the rockets were already stacked at the PF spot with Kenny Thomas and Mo Taylor at the time. I think it would have been wiser to have kept the three picks. They could have turned out to be Jefferson, Randolph and Tony Parker!!</div> Well when Eddie Griffin was selected he wasn't selected for that year but rather a few years down the line. The Rockets then made the trade for Posey to help get rid of some of the frontcourt players that wouldn't get any PT when Griffin started playing some serious minutes. We could go into the "What if's" all day long about who we could have gotten if we didnt make the trade with NJ. The fact of the matter was at that time, this deal was the best for the Rockets. No one expected Randolph and Jefferson to be as good as they were. You said we already had enough big man so drafting Randolph wouldn't have been the best choice. Also we already had our PG of the future in Parker. What if we passed on Hakeem and drafted Michael Jordan instead?
