<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Celtics got off to a hot start against the Los Angeles Clippers Thursday night, cruising to a 23-6 lead at the end of the first quarter. They never looked back, beating the Clippers, 76-59. Rookie Gerald Green led the Celtics with 14 points (5-9 FG). Tony Allen had 13 points (5-11 FG), while Justin Reed pitched in 12 points (4-9 FG). The Celtics finished the game shooting 44 percent (28-64 FG), and out-rebounded the Clippers 51-34.</div> Recap Box Score Tony Allen- 13 pts, 9 boards Justin Reed- 12 pts, 7 boards Gerald Green- 14 pts We doubled them in rebounds, but we only had 2 assists as a team. Mixed results, but it looks like we won fairly easily.
The thing that impresses me about this win is the rebounding margin. I also noticed that Ryan Gomes scored 4 points and grabbed 6 rebounds. He's contributing right off the start. Another thing that grabs my attention is that Coppenrath contributed with 6 points and played 24 minutes. That shows me that we are giving him a chance and his is contributing. He needs to grab more rebounds though. Green really impresses me. He only played 16 minutes but scored 14 points and grabbed a rebound. He will be a great asset to us come November. I know there is nothing to really get worked up about since this is early in the summer leauge and we're playing the Clippers but look how well we performed. I'm really looking forward to next season.
Ryan Gomes (a.k.a. instant future NBA All-Rookie First Teamer) - 4 pts, 6 rbs Gerald Green (a.k.a. not ready for a major role yet) - 14 pts Did I get those numbers backwards, 44? I don't mean to bash Will McDonald, but only 8 pts and 5 rbs? Who does he think he is? A better Ryan Gomes? :gloat: On a more serious note, I know Gomes is talented, so what's with the bad performance? Having an offnight? Having a hard time adjusting to the 3? Injured?
Hey, I have an idea...let's be as ridiculous as possible. We're talking about a summer league game. Trying to gauge what kind of season Gomes will have, based on that, is pathetic. So pathetic that I'm actually embarrased about responding to it. Also, I don't remember saying that Gomes was an All Rookie team candidate. Maybe you should be addressing C.K. with those comments. My only beef was with you calling it a "joke", when it's entirely possible.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey, I have an idea...let's be as ridiculous as possible. We're talking about a summer league game. Trying to gauge what kind of season Gomes will have, based on that, is pathetic. So pathetic that I'm actually embarrased about responding to it. Also, I don't remember saying that Gomes was an All Rookie team candidate. Maybe you should be addressing C.K. with those comments. My only beef was with you calling it a "joke", when it's entirely possible.</div> That's why they play these games, because they don't matter. They're just silly little get-togethers and another excuse to shower with a bunch of men, right? As for gauging Gomes' season, you're jumping to conclusions. This thread is for talk about the players' Summer League performances, and I replied about the Summer League performances. Soooo rediculous. And the joke is still very funny to me. You'll get it some day.
the results aren't important but how the rookies and guys looking to prove themselves Is. It gives you a good idea on what to happen for the new season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">That's why they play these games, because they don't matter. They're just silly little get-togethers and another excuse to shower with a bunch of men, right?</div>The games don't matter. The purpose for it is to give young players experience and try out some players for potential roster spots. The competition level is bad and you cannot put much or any weight into the results. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As for gauging Gomes' season, you're jumping to conclusions. This thread is for talk about the players' Summer League performances, and I replied about the Summer League performances. Soooo rediculous.</div>Maybe it wasn't you that drafted up that post, because it's obvious that you were trying to say that. Why else would you put "a.k.a. instant future NBA All-Rookie First Teamer" next to Gomes' name? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And the joke is still very funny to me. You'll get it some day.</div>Listen, I know you're very mad about no Michigan State players getting drafted, but there are better ways to take out your aggression. I'm very very sorry that Gomes got drafted and Anderson didn't.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">The games don't matter. The purpose for it is to give young players experience and try out some players for potential roster spots. The competition level is bad and you cannot put much or any weight into the results.</div> I wasn't putting too much weight in the results; not at all. I was simply starting a discussion about Gomes' poor performance. You have to acknowledge that he had a poor performance. What are you chalking that up to? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe it wasn't you that drafted up that post, because it's obvious that you were trying to say that. Why else would you put "a.k.a. instant future NBA All-Rookie First Teamer" next to Gomes' name?</div> I put that next to his name to illustrate how bad of a performance that was for a player expected to be a future NBA All-Rookie First Teamer. What'd you think I meant by that? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Listen, I know you're very mad about no Michigan State players getting drafted, but there are better ways to take out your aggression. I'm very very sorry that Gomes got drafted and Anderson didn't.</div> First of all, a Michigan State player was drafted. #46 - Indiana Pacers - Erazem Lorbek Then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way down there at #50, Ryan Gomes was picked. Am I correct? Second of all, what matters to me in college basketball is not where the players end up in the NBA but rather how the players and teams I follow do in the NCAA. Michigan State went to the Final Four for the 4th time in just 7 years. Where was Providence again? I must have missed them when filling out my tournament bracket.
allen iverson scored 81 points in a summer league game before his rookie season even started, so dont put too much emphasis on green`s 14 points cos it means nothing till showtime really starts
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I wasn't putting too much weight in the results; not at all. I was simply starting a discussion about Gomes' poor performance. You have to acknowledge that he had a poor performance. What are you chalking that up to?</div>I don't think it was poor considering it was a summer league game, and also his first. He's top 10 in rebounds for the league, and he's only a small forward. That's great if you ask me. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I put that next to his name to illustrate how bad of a performance that was for a player expected to be a future NBA All-Rookie First Teamer. What'd you think I meant by that?</div>Expected by who? One poster on JBB? You should probably do some more research. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, a Michigan State player was drafted. #46 - Indiana Pacers - Erazem Lorbek</div>Yeah, he played there what, 3 years ago? Where did Anderson get drafted? Just be glad you didn't take that bet. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way down there at #50, Ryan Gomes was picked. Am I correct?</div>Hey, you're the draft expert, you tell me. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Second of all, what matters to me in college basketball is not where the players end up in the NBA but rather how the players and teams I follow do in the NCAA. Michigan State went to the Final Four for the 4th time in just 7 years. Where was Providence again? I must have missed them when filling out my tournament bracket.</div>No, silly. The Friars didn't make the tourney.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Expected by who? One poster on JBB? You should probably do some more research.</div> If it's expected by one person, then that still makes it expected. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, he played there what, 3 years ago? Where did Anderson get drafted? Just be glad you didn't take that bet.</div> Lorbek was once a Michigan State Spartan, and he was drafted. That's the bottom line. Anderson wasn't picked, and I wasn't expecting him to be picked over Gomes, hence why I didn't take your bet. I don't think it's fair to single out him though. Michigan State has had a great track record with drafts. Over the past few years they've seen Jason Richardson, Zach Randolph, Morris Petterson, Mateen Cleaves, Marcus Taylor, and Andre Hutson all be drafted, as well as Charlie Bell having stints as an undrafted Free Agent. Then when you look to the future, they have four or five guys that are very likely first round picks with Brown, Davis, Ager, Gray, and Neitzel. So I don't think it's fair to compare too many schools outside of North Carolina to them on the draft front.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">If it's expected by one person, then that still makes it expected. Lorbek was once a Michigan State Spartan, and he was drafted. That's the bottom line. Anderson wasn't picked, and I wasn't expecting him to be picked over Gomes, hence why I didn't take your bet. I don't think it's fair to single out him though. Michigan State has had a great track record with drafts. Over the past few years they've seen Jason Richardson, Zach Randolph, Morris Petterson, Mateen Cleaves, Marcus Taylor, and Andre Hutson all be drafted, as well as Charlie Bell having stints as an undrafted Free Agent. Then when you look to the future, they have four or five guys that are very likely first round picks with Brown, Davis, Ager, Gray, and Neitzel. So I don't think it's fair to compare too many schools outside of North Carolina to them on the draft front.</div> I see VC likes to make arguments begin Also I do recall Gomes was gonna start? That's sad to have Gomes out there when he can't even put up stats against Summer League Teams, isnt it suppose to be weak competition compared to the NBA? The only thing I see wrong is that Gomes got 13 minutes, Why? Isn't he gonna start next year? So he's riding the bench in the Summer League? Makes no sense. VC, Arizona can be compared to Michigan St. for players drafted.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">I see VC likes to make arguments begin Also I do recall Gomes was gonna start? That's sad to have Gomes out there when he can't even put up stats against Summer League Teams, isnt it suppose to be weak competition compared to the NBA? The only thing I see wrong is that Gomes got 13 minutes, Why? Isn't he gonna start next year? So he's riding the bench in the Summer League? Makes no sense. VC, Arizona can be compared to Michigan St. for players drafted.</div>You can't even be serious with those questions. You people are putting way too much thought into this summer league. Think about the significance of these games....there is none. You can't ask questions like that because you'd be asking them for the rest of your life. The coaches don't care if they win these games, they just want an adequate look at how their players are progressing. A guy might play 5 minutes one night and 35 the next. There's no rhyme or reason to it at all. Take a look at all the box scores from the league if you'd like. You'll see what I'm talking about.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You people are putting way too much thought into this summer league. </div> And what's that supposed to mean, 44? No one is putting too much thought into this summer league (well, maybe J_Ray is). Yes, I'm posting about it and asking why Gomes did so poorly, but isn't that the point of the thread, summer league discussion? As for Arizona, they don't hold a torch to the quality of players that have come out of Michigan State. I'll take Richardson and Randolph over Arenas and Jefferson any day.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't even be serious with those questions. You people are putting way too much thought into this summer league. Think about the significance of these games....there is none. You can't ask questions like that because you'd be asking them for the rest of your life. The coaches don't care if they win these games, they just want an adequate look at how their players are progressing. A guy might play 5 minutes one night and 35 the next. There's no rhyme or reason to it at all. Take a look at all the box scores from the league if you'd like. You'll see what I'm talking about.</div> I have been looking at all the box scores, and I noticed Antoine Wright throws up 25 shots a game and only makes 5, Darius Rice can score 15 points in the same amount of minutes Gomes gets, and players who should be playing more next year are getting a lot of minutes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post"> As for Arizona, they don't hold a torch to the quality of players that have come out of Michigan State. I'll take Richardson and Randolph over Arenas and Jefferson any day.</div> Ya, well I'll take Frye and Stoudamire over Lorbek and Anderson any day. At least the leader for our championship is still in the NBA(Bibby). What ever happen to Mateen Cleaves, I've never seen him start and lead a team the whole year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Ya, well I'll take Frye and Stoudamire over Lorbek and Anderson any day. At least the leader for our championship is still in the NBA(Bibby). What ever happen to Mateen Cleaves, I've never seen him start and lead a team the whole year.</div> Mateen played for the Seattle Supersonics, who were a better team than the Sacramento Kings. Jason Richardson, Zach Randolph, Shannon Brown > Gilbert Arenas, Mike Bibby, Richard Jefferson And call me when Arizona gets a player as good as Magic Johnson, or even Steve Smith for that matter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Ya, well I'll take Frye and Stoudamire over Lorbek and Anderson any day. At least the leader for our championship is still in the NBA(Bibby). What ever happen to Mateen Cleaves, I've never seen him start and lead a team the whole year.</div> That's great to see that Arizona actually had some better players than Michigan State, but what team went farther in the tourney this season? What team went through the #1 and #2 seed in their bracket to get to the Final 4? Michigan State did. Michigan State had no true superstar on their team, but with the heart and will to win that all the kids expressed on that team to get by each game, I'd take any of them over Frye and Salim anyday of the week. This is why college basketball is the best sport on this earth!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting UKOwnstheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">That's great to see that Arizona actually had some better players than Michigan State, but what team went farther in the tourney this season? What team went through the #1 and #2 seed in their bracket to get to the Final 4? Michigan State did. Michigan State had no true superstar on their team, but with the heart and will to win that all the kids expressed on that team to get by each game, I'd take any of them over Frye and Salim anyday of the week. This is why college basketball is the best sport on this earth!</div> Well Arizona did beat the #2 seed their bracket, then they played a game against The #1 team in the nation at that point, Illinois, a team that Michigan St. couldn't beat either, at pretty much their home floor home, they had home court advantage. Then you say Stoudamire and Frye don't play with their heart? They play with just as much heart as any of the Mich. St. players. Frye and Stoudamire came in as regular recruits not superstars and they worked at it to become the players they are now. Frye wasn't even a top 100 recruit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Well Arizona did beat the #2 seed their bracket, then they played a game against The #1 team in the nation at that point, Illinois, a team that Michigan St. couldn't beat either, at pretty much their home floor home, they had home court advantage. Then you say Stoudamire and Frye don't play with their heart? They play with just as much heart as any of the Mich. St. players. Frye and Stoudamire came in as regular recruits not superstars and they worked at it to become the players they are now. Frye wasn't even a top 100 recruit.</div> Hold on, you mind to quote where I said Salim ad Frye didn't play with heart. Thanks. It doesn't really matter if Michigan State couldn't beat Illinois; all that really matters is what happens in the NCAA Tourney. Michigan State did better than Arizona, just face it.
