When you have as many problems as KG is having with just making it to the 2nd round, I think a Finals showing would do him just fine. Do we think this team can make the Finals? Don't know, but my money would be with no. KG doesn't want to (nor should he) wait til' guys find their niche. A question that always pops in my mind...... ........do you think C Webb would be useful? I know he's not the same guy that was tearing up the league some years ago, but he does have experience and a big body (place him at the Center). Shaq himself said he doesn't like being defended by a certain type of defender and did call C Webb by name. If the Al Harrington deal falls through, I think of C Webb because: - He does have a large contract, but it expires after next season - He is an above average passer and is not very selfish (Being that KG is super unselfish, C Webb would not have problems finding a shot) - I know he's not the fastest player, being that he had the knee surgery and such, but has excellent post footwork and can rebound - We ship off some of the lengthy contracts, and if the experiment falls through, we don't have the looooong financial burden (we have 6 guys signed til 2009/2010 season) - Both KG and Webber have had a taste of post-season success, and got to the Western Conference Finals, and want to get to the next level. Being an optimist, I generally see things on the brighter side. Am welcome to opinions as long as they are thought out and explanatory. We don't need a..... "Webber sucks" "Why" "Because he does" "Care to explain" "Because he does"
at first when you mentioned it i didn't think he whould fit but now that you have explained it it does sorta makes sense. and with the limit of big men at this day and age escpecialy with the ones alvalible now he whould be the best pick up we could get. he is not the player he once was but he is not completely lost his talent. he also has great hands for a big man but knowing mr.mchale i doubt this will happen.
lol, sabertooth, i got c webb in the mock off season we are having here on JBB. I think he would fit well with KG, but who would we give up? If its Jaric, Huddy, and some other scrubs (no RD or Blount) i dont see how we could satisfy his 20 some million dollar contract. Who else on our team has a big contract? (no hassell!!!!!!!!!) If we could get him easily, then i would definately say do it
maybe we could deal hudd or jaric with a second round pick throw some weak player in thier also. they don't whant webber that much they just whant his contract to be gone.
Here's what I see as possibilities this season. Al Harrington would be a nice pick up, but if things don't go well in that aspect, the C Webb move wouldn't be a bad thing. Remember, we don't have a post banger so teams will make us continue to be a jump shooting team which has shown not to be the best offense in the post season. I would start C Webb at the 5 with Blount of the bench. Griffin back up 4 but still needs to work on his post game. I'm not opposed to picking up Santiago because he's cheap and can bang. I believe he is a good weakside defender, but I don't know his 1-on-1 defensive skill level. What I would do is make sure we get at least 2 bangers....period. Just for match up issues. I would have a post up, banger just in case our shots are not falling or the opposition is weak in the middle. We have proven that you can be successful in the regular season with the jumpshot, but not in the post season.
i live in sacramento and i remeber him in his glory days. he has never really been the big tough banger that will smash on anybody and will get offensive rebounds. he whants to play like a guard,and we need the oppisite of that. i whould rather have reggie evans but we need someone to play 5 and he is better than blount.
agreed, unless we go into full fledge rebuilding mode (which we wont be until KG is gone) we cant take on his contract if he is gonna play like a pansy. I'd much rather have reggie evans.
CWebb wouldn't have a spot on this team. He can't play center. At all. He was having issues defending all year last year, and it won't be any different this year. He'd be nothing but a financial burden for you guys for two years. As it is, I think this squad has playoff potential, but nothing else. Their starting five shouldn't be too bad. Mike James gives them a very good scorer alongside Ricky and KG. Plus, I think Foye is going to be dynamite in this league and I wouldn't doubt to see him start this upcoming season, moving Hassell to the bench. But outside of Foye, who do you really have for a bench? Hudson is supposedly injured, is he not? If that's the case, scratch him off. McCants might miss the entire season. Eddie Griffin, while he's ok, isn't going to produce much offensively. Marko Jaric is not what I would call good or reliable. And....well, that's about it. Your bench is your weakness. If you could overcome that, I think you guys could make the playoffs, but not much more than that.
I agree. I dont think anyone really knows what is going on with Hudon, he said he is getting healthy but has refused to work out infront of the coaches. Griffin could have a good year off the bench if he would remove his head from his ass. I dont see depth at the guard position to be a problem though i really sucks that rashad will be out at least until january. The big thing that they need is another good big man. Maybe reggie evans (from the one and only u of iowa) or possibly a trade. with another solid big, this is team that could be scary come playoff time.
On a random, off topic note....it's nice to see another Iowa boy on this board. I think I was the only one for the longest time.
Every team starts of the season in the "potential" bracket, but there are teams that have proven themselves. The Wolves have ALWAYS seemed to be in that "if he plays to his potential" or "he has shown signs" phase, and that gets old. Like they always say, "You can either make the song, or you can not make the song".
The TWolves do have the contracts to make a trade for C-Webb, but you have to ask yourself this .. "Is C-Webb & KG enough to win a title?" I'd say the answer is no and investing over $40M in just two players, is salary cap suicide. Having Webber for two seasons means the TWolves will waste 2 more years of KG not being able to win a title. If the TWolves are willing to take on this type of financial risk they are better off pursuing Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, or Ray Allen. Both KG and Iverson are hungry to win a title before their careers come to an end, and I think these two would compliment each other's games perfectly. It's no secret Philly shopped Iverson around, but they didn't get the offers they wanted. I'm not sure if Minnesota has enough to acquire Iverson, but a package headlined by Randy Foye could be a start. Foye + Davis + Blount or Jaric + 2007 1st Rounder? This would leave the TWolves with ... PG - Iverson SG - James SF - Hassell PF - KG C - Blount or Griffin The trio of Iverson, James and KG is enough to get back to the playoffs, and gives this team a chance to make a run for the next 2 or 3 seasons at a title.
^^Thats the kind of deal i have been hoping for, but mchale has given no signs of attempting it. I would only deal foye if we get to keep blount as well. I dont want to have to try the whole eddie g thing at center, he was horrible as a starter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Having Webber for two seasons means the TWolves will waste 2 more years of KG not being able to win a title. </div> In my scenario, the plan in contingent that KG will opt out next season if we continue to struggle. So it's all or nothing. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Both KG and Iverson are hungry to win a title before their careers come to an end, and I think these two would compliment each other's games perfectly. </div> I have dreamed of A.I. and KG since A.I. does like to have the ball and KG likes to share. Also, with plays run for Allen, would take the pressure off of KG and could really lean on each other. Perfect match, I ask anyone to find a reason that they wouldn't coincide. I honestly believe if it COULD happen, KG would do whatever is necessary. Be it pay cut, flying to Philly to recruit, buying Philly management cars, whatever. I ask anyone why these two wouldn't be instant gold? Those two with our role players could make significant noise. The only reason I gave up is that they have come out to their fans and said he won't be moved. I would think for them to let go of him now would be public relation suicide. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Thats the kind of deal i have been hoping for, but mchale has given no signs of attempting it. I would only deal foye if we get to keep blount as well. I dont want to have to try the whole eddie g thing at center, he was horrible as a starter.</div> If they want Blount's contract, why not? THAT'S ALLEN IVERSON. The fact is that Griffen does seem to be a better bench player. But, that's because of play calling. He is a good shot blocker and he needs to stay in the post. Maybe Philly'd offload Steven Hunter (they'd actually try to force Dalembert since they aren't happy with their rush to sign him so eagerly).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Thats the kind of deal i have been hoping for, but mchale has given no signs of attempting it. I would only deal foye if we get to keep blount as well. I dont want to have to try the whole eddie g thing at center, he was horrible as a starter.</div> If they want Blount's contract, why not? THAT'S ALLEN IVERSON. The fact is that Griffen does seem to be a better bench player. But, that's because of play calling. He is a good shot blocker and he needs to stay in the post. Maybe Philly'd offload Steven Hunter (they'd actually try to force Dalembert since they aren't happy with their rush to sign him so eagerly).
If we get iversone and dalembert i'd freak. As much as i love foye, that is WAY worth it, as long as we keep hassell and james (who we cant trade anyway).
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/419...gton_deal_dead/ Well the Harrington to Indiana deal appears to be dead and Minny is one of the teams back in the running. Do you guys think the wolves should eat that much salary and give a future first round pick for Harrington. The price sure does seem to be high but man it would sertainly make us a better team this year
Kg has stated he wants a playoof apperance or a least a somewhat succesful year and if not then he will leave. taking that into consideration i think he is worth it bucause as of right now it's all or nothing in minny
