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  1. Dom_Sensei

    Dom_Sensei JBB JustBBall Member

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    .C Tim Duncan
    PF Malick Rose
    SF Hidayet Turkoglu
    SG Ron Mercer
    PG Manu Ginobili

    6th Tony Parker
    7th Bruce Bowen
    8th Radoslav Nesterovic

    They will be more exciting, not a boring team anymore...
    Parker from the bench could bring a good boost such as Bobby Jackson or last year's Van Exel.
    Bowen & Nesterovic could make this second unit great.
     
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    Thats a horrible line-up,Manu at starting point guard would take everything away from what he is good at.He can't run an offense,He just wouldn't be mobile enough to keep up with the top point guards.Ron Mercer to start? I'm guessing you want a top pick? Ron Mercer is a ballhog that doesn't do anything even remotely decent.Can't rebound,pass or shoot consistantly.Has to play 40+ minutes just to score 18 points.Malik Rose is a guy who brings a spark off the Spurs bench,just like Hedo

    Bruce Bowen is the best defensive guard Spurs have,he has the abilty to stop the top shooting guards in this league and when open can knock down the three consistantly.

    Spurs don't need to change their current line-up,a trade is needed to get Duncan another scoring option but the answer isn't bringing bench players in as starters.
     
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    Damn, you beat me to it. THat is the most terrible line up you can make with the Spurs' team. If you ever noticed, they play defense - they're not meant to be exciting to those who can't truly appreciate the game of basketball.
     
  4. Dom_Sensei

    Dom_Sensei JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yes, but they are too boring. My line-up will be much faster, and as long as they have Duncan, they will still play defense.
    For exemple, Billups, Hamilton & Okur are weak defenders in detroit, and the team is still a good defensive one.
    And on offense, my team will be a 100plus one per game.
     
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    Getting the wins is all that matters,being exciting or boring does not matter.You have no valid point in what you are saying.I have already given reasons why that line-up you suggested would not work.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">For exemple, Billups, Hamilton & Okur are weak defenders in detroit, and the team is still a good defensive one.</div>

    They aren't weak,average,but not weak.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And on offense, my team will be a 100plus one per game</div>

    You can't be serious? please stay off whatever you are smoking.
     
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    Dom_Sensei JBB JustBBall Member

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    "Thats a horrible line-up,Manu at starting point guard would take everything away from what he is good at.He can't run an offense,He just wouldn't be mobile enough to keep up with the top point guards."
    At the beginning of the season, Ginobili was the spur that called the plays and lead the game, and he was better than what he is now.

    "Ron Mercer to start? I'm guessing you want a top pick?"
    When he is concentrated, he is a good player, especielly when you run...
     
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    Manu never ran the offense,he got assists by being the focal point on the wing,he could never run the point.

    As for Mercer,he is and will always be a ballhog that has never been a winner or a team guy.
     
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    Dom_Sensei JBB JustBBall Member

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    On Billups, Okur & Hamilton defense: "They aren't weak,average,but not weak"

    WHO IS SMOKING? Lisa Leslie could post up Okur and Hamilton, and Billups couldn't guard Sebastian Teflair right now.
     
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    "As for Mercer,he is and will always be a ballhog that has never been a winner or a team guy"

    Kentucky years...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dom_Sensei:</div><div class="quote_post">On Billups, Okur & Hamilton defense: "They aren't weak,average,but not weak"

    WHO IS SMOKING? Lisa Leslie could post up Okur and Hamilton, and Billups couldn't guard Sebastian Teflair right now.</div>

    Considering I have likely seen maybe 300+ more Piston games than you thats a messed up statement.They are decent defenders.Rip is the weakest out of the three,Okur can be effective on the defensive end but can sometimes lose his man.Billups is a soild defender for his position.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"As for Mercer,he is and will always be a ballhog that has never been a winner or a team guy"

    Kentucky years...</div>

    I don't care what he did in college,as a pro he has been nothing more than a loser.
     
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    Dom_Sensei JBB JustBBall Member

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    Considering I have likely seen maybe 300+ more Spurs games than you thats a messed up statement. My line-up will be great. [​IMG]

    And if you are always watching pistons' games, how do you explain that Larry Brown just declared that he considered to change his line-up, with Okur (+Prince) going to the bench because of his poor defense?

    A proof:
    http://www.freep.com/sports/pistons/pcorn31_20040131.htm
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dom_Sensei:</div><div class="quote_post">Considering I have likely seen maybe 300+ more Spurs games than you thats a messed up statement. My line-up will be great. [​IMG]

    And if you are always watching pistons' games, how do you explain that Larry Brown just declared that he considered to change his line-up, with Okur (+Prince) going to the bench because of his poor defense?

    A proof:
    http://www.freep.com/sports/pistons/pcorn31_20040131.htm</div>

    No your line-up sucks,It would completely ruin the Spurs on both ends of the floor.

    As for Okur,Brown likes to use him as a spark off the bench,that has more to do with it than just his defense.He can also be inconsistant which hurts the Pistons as a team.
     
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    This guy is a joke...You dont swap a good effective..Defensive line-up for a "exciting" one..Who cares if the spurs are boring....We win because we are boring..And if you dont know Manu is an explosive Dunker....But he doesnt do it for unessceray purposes..Even if it was to be traded it wouldnt be that joke of a line-up....It would have to involve trades...Now i suggest you stop with the crack go and find yourself a corner and sit in it..Before you hurt you self..Peace!
     
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    But the thing is, they're not boring in the least. The only way they're boring is to someone who doesn't truly understand and enjoy the game of basketball. Though they don't score like the Kings or Mavericks, they are arguably one of the most exciting teams in the league to watch.

    You can't possibly be a real fan if you're really thinking this way.
     
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    The reason San Antonio win is behind two reasons: Tim Duncan, and stifling defense. Taking Bowen and Nesterovic out of the starting line-up means you lose a lot of that defense, and taking Parker out means you're wasting one of the best young point guards in the country, not to mention no chance of re-signing him when his rookie deal is up. Manu is best utilised as a slasher, putting him at point guard takes away his free movement attitude, which IMO is what makes him so effective.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crossover:</div><div class="quote_post">But the thing is, they're not boring in the least. The only way they're boring is to someone who doesn't truly understand and enjoy the game of basketball. Though they don't score like the Kings or Mavericks, they are arguably one of the most exciting teams in the league to watch.

    You can't possibly be a real fan if you're really thinking this way.</div>

    No crossover....I know they are not boring..I was just trying to porve a point to this Drunken..lol....But yes..They dont have all that fast breal finesse soft basktball like mavs..kings..But when they got their game on running the break..You will see Manu dunking like hes angry at the rim...Ron-m even getting some nice dunks....Tim just shredding the rim..and the ball..and even parker has started to show you what he can do...so they are NOT boring....!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crossover:</div><div class="quote_post">But the thing is, they're not boring in the least. The only way they're boring is to someone who doesn't truly understand and enjoy the game of basketball. Though they don't score like the Kings or Mavericks, they are arguably one of the most exciting teams in the league to watch.

    You can't possibly be a real fan if you're really thinking this way.</div>

    I just hate that team, which is an insult to the beauty of the game.
    Duncan is one of NBA's best, but his style is awful...
    Bowen can't score, Parker is not a real floor leader, Nesterovic may never be consitent...
    My line-up may not be the most effective but certainly the most exciting.
    NBA basketball should be all about excitement, and not slow offense with systematic inside plays.
    Anyway, they won't be champs this year, so why not trying to please people with a high scoring line-up?
    I assume you all prefer the current one than mine, but it was just an idea to make me love that team...
     
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    Everyone is not an all-around player on the Spurs. Manu on PG? What kind of line-up is this?

    C Tim Duncan
    PF Malick Rose
    SF Hidayet Turkoglu
    SG Ron Mercer
    PG Manu Ginobili

    6th Tony Parker
    7th Bruce Bowen
    8th Radoslav Nesterovic

    Man, a dog can make a better line-up than that.
     
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    You need to realise this isn't streetball,this is the NBA.I don't give a damn if teams are exciting or not,getting the wins is what matters most.Who cares if Spurs play a slower offense than a team like the Kings do,that line-up is far from exciting( In fact It's more boring than any line-up Spurs could use).So again you have no point
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">



    You can't be serious? please stay off whatever you are smoking.</div>



    LMAO. [​IMG]. What I say if someone is talking nonsense is What have you been smoking?
     

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