player wise Chris Paul.Chris Paul has an outstanding playmaking ability. Parker will drive and hit his floater. Paul will pass it out to you and scroes when he needs to. He is also the better all-around player.
Right now Tony Parker. Much better scorer, and the dude has 2 rings. Paul has better overall stats, but Parker is proven and has the accolades to show for it.Within 2 or so years I feel Paul will be the better player, though.
I think Tony has to get the nod from last season. Tim Duncan had one of the worst sesons of his career, and Parker picked up the slack. He averaged like 21 ppg on over .500 percent from the floor. He was great at driving and getting easy buckets. He wasn't as good a passer as Paul. but for his scoring heroics I just have to get him the nod.Next year? Chris Paul. He has alot more targets, and entering his 2nd year he is bound to improve. I dont see Parker having as much success as last year too, to tell you the truth.
This is a tough one. I am gonna take Paul. I mean c'mon, more rebounds and assists while only scoring 2ppg less. I take Paul now and for the future. I think he does a better job of getting his teammates involved than Parker.
Its really tough. The stats are fairly similar. But I think as of right now, the key componant to look at would have to be leadership. As good as Duncan and Manu are, Parker is the leader of that team. Ask yourself, could Paul go in to San Antonio and take the leader role? I dont think so.........YET. Right now Im going with Parker. Long run, going with Paul.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Sep 20 2006, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its really tough. The stats are fairly similar. But I think as of right now, the key componant to look at would have to be leadership. As good as Duncan and Manu are, Parker is the leader of that team. Ask yourself, could Paul go in to San Antonio and take the leader role? I dont think so.........YET. Right now Im going with Parker. Long run, going with Paul.</div>You're taking Parker because of leadership? Paul almost led that crappy Hornets team that was expected to be last in the league to the playoffs, in his rookie season. You cant take Parker because of leadership too. He wasnt even the leader of the team. Tim Duncan still was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 20 2006, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're taking Parker because of leadership? Paul almost led that crappy Hornets team that was expected to be last in the league to the playoffs, in his rookie season. You cant take Parker because of leadership too. He wasnt even the leader of the team. Tim Duncan still was.</div>Tim Duncan is the most prominant figure on the team. However, Parker is the leader. And yes, Paul did lead that crappy team to the playoffs. But only by ONE aspect of leadership, statistics. Parkers effort is only matched by Manu, and his willingness to do whatever it takes to win is not matched by anyone else on that team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Sep 20 2006, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tim Duncan is the most prominant figure on the team. However, Parker is the leader. And yes, Paul did lead that crappy team to the playoffs. But only by ONE aspect of leadership, statistics. Parkers effort is only matched by Manu, and his willingness to do whatever it takes to win is not matched by anyone else on that team.</div>I like that you are standing up for TP, but as a huge spurs fan I know that Tim is definately the leader of the team. I mean c'mon, are the players going to follow the lead of an up and coming PG or are they going to follow the lead of a 2-time MVP, 3-time NBA Finals MVP, and 3-time NBA champ? Oh also the hornets didnt make the playoffs last year.OK back to the topic, these two players are pretty much neck and neck even in age. CP3 is 21 and Tony is 24. Ok Chris Paul has better court vision than Tony, Tony is better at inside scoring that Chris Paul, Chris Paul is a better perimeter shooter than Tony (as of now), Tony is quicker than Chris Paul. It is really hard for me to make a judgement, but if CP3 continues to play the way he played last year than hands down the better PG would be Chris Paul but as of right now I have them as pretty much equal players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right now Tony Parker. Much better scorer, and the dude has 2 rings. Paul has better overall stats, but Parker is proven and has the accolades to show for it.Within 2 or so years I feel Paul will be the better player, though.</div> Sure he's won 2 titles but he played so badly in one of the finals series that he needed to be replaced by Speedy Claxton and in his short career has been noticeably lousy in the playoffs when the Spurs needed his head in the game. (Except in the 2006 playoffs).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 17 2006, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right now Tony Parker. Much better scorer, and the dude has 2 rings.</div>Luc Longley had 2 more rings and 1.1 PPG more than Ben Wallace, so apparantly you would pic Longley over Ben Wallace. You're a moron with terrible logic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 21 2006, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Luc Longley had 2 more rings and 1.1 PPG more than Ben Wallace, so apparantly you would pic Longley over Ben Wallace. You're a moron with terrible logic.</div> He's just using that to beef up his opinion...obviously Longley won titles but he was just an average center, not a 'star PG' like Parker.
Your calling him a moron with terrible logic. HAHAHA! That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Have you ever read your own posts Something-to-say? Cause they are terrible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 21 2006, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Luc Longley had 2 more rings and 1.1 PPG more than Ben Wallace, so apparantly you would pic Longley over Ben Wallace. You're a moron with terrible logic.</div>Ben Wallace is one of the greatest defenders in league. Chris Paul doesn't have a huge advantage in any category over Parker, so there is a big difference in this debate vs your terrible analogy. Paul is also a rookie who has never been to the playoffs, and his team even somewhat collapsed towards the end of the season, where Ben has a ring, has many individual achievements, and is one of game's best defenders and rebounders. Just terrible analogy.
I wouldn't call Parker a star PG. When you say "who are the top PGs around?" people say Nash, Kidd, maybe Paul, maybe baron davis or Arenas, but parker hardly comes up. He's overrated.
Baron Davis?!?He has 2 'chips, one of best FG %'s around, 18PPG, and good all around stats. I do not feel he is at Nash's, Kidd's or Billups' level, but I feel he deserves nod over Paul. Much better scorer, good passer, has 2 rings. That is enough for me, especially against a rookie whose team collpased 3/4 of the way through the season, didn't make playoffs, and stats aren't much better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 21 2006, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Baron Davis?!?He has 2 'chips, one of best FG %'s around, 18PPG, and good all around stats. I do not feel he is at Nash's, Kidd's or Billups' level, but I feel he deserves nod over Paul. Much better scorer, good passer, has 2 rings. That is enough for me, especially against a rookie whose team collpased 3/4 of the way through the season, didn't make playoffs, and stats aren't much better.</div>You lost me there for a second. Though I know you're comparing Tony Parker with CP3, it seemed like you were comparing Baron Davis instead due to the fact that you put "Baron Davis?!?" in beginning of your post. Just for the future, don't start your posts like that, please. That's just annoying and arrogant.Anyway:Steve Nash?!? (j/k)CP3 may get better eventually, but as of right now, Tony Parker is the man to nod your head toward. End of story.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 22 2006, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You lost me there for a second. Though I know you're comparing Tony Parker with CP3, it seemed like you were comparing Baron Davis instead due to the fact that you put "Baron Davis?!?" in beginning of your post. Just for the future, don't start your posts like that, please. That's just annoying and arrogant.Anyway:Steve Nash?!? (j/k)CP3 may get better eventually, but as of right now, Tony Parker is the man to nod your head toward. End of story.</div>Sorry if I confused you, but yes you are right I was comparing Chris Paul to Parker. But him even bringing up Baron Davis is just ridiculous, he has never been in the running for best PG in league, and has proved to be just as infectious to his team as other similar players with nice stat lines but not much else like Steph and Steve Francis.
