Cities paying Chinese firms and workers to build roads and bridges

When you owe the Chinese $trillions, they can demand favors like this. Especially when you need them to lend you several more $trillions or else.

 

Uhm, it was the states who hired the Chinese to build the bridges.

barfo

 

Is the point of that money to create jobs or to build roads?

If it's just to build roads, then use the cheapest/best value approach.

If it's to create jobs, or a combination, then I would prefer to pay American companies (at least American workers, even if they're for foreign firms).

Ed O.

 

The third option is "the point of the money is to spend it for the hell of it. maybe it'll make people feel good."

 

So, the bridge mentioned in the video between SF and Oakland is just for the hell of it? Completely unnecessary?

Your anti-government agenda sure takes you some strange places sometimes.

barfo

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...09/25/gIQAPRB1xK_blog.html?wprss=fact-checker

Obama’s strained symbolism at an Ohio River bridge

The Facts
The Fact Checker grew up in Cincinnati and knows the terror that motorists feel as they drive across this bridge coming from the airport, which is on the Kentucky side of the river.

The bridge was built in 1963 to accommodate 80,000 vehicles per day, but daily traffic is approaching 200,000 vehicles, as the traffic of I-75 and I-71 must cross it. The bridge is also a vital part of the U.S. economy, where the value of the freight that passes over it each year is equal to about 3 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product.

The president, in his speech to Congress and in Cincinnati last week, certainly made it sound like passage of his jobs bill would mean construction workers would show up soon to begin fixing this urgent problem. The two ideas were directly linked in his speech to Congress:

“There are private construction companies all across America just waiting to get to work. There’s a bridge that needs repair between Ohio and Kentucky that’s on one of the busiest trucking routes in North America.”

And then, in a campaign-style rally last week in Cincinnati, he upped the ante, suggesting that Boehner and McConnell, by opposing his bill, were preventing the bridge from being rebuilt. “Mr. Boehner, Mr. McConnell, help us rebuild this bridge,” he shouted. “Help us rebuild America. Help us put construction workers back to work. Pass this bill.”

So Carney’s comment — “could speed up the process” — amounted to a very large asterisk on the president’s words.

We dug a little deeper, and no money in the jobs bill is intended for the bridge. But administration officials argue that the act would provide additional funding for the Federal Highway Administration, and some of that money could be used to speed up environmental and other approvals.

“This means that the environmental work could finish by February ’12. A contract could be awarded late in ’12, and the workers could begin construction on the approaches to the bridge, which is a big part of the project, in ’13,” one administration official said. Another official said the money could speed up other required steps.

We get a little wary when we hear “could” in every sentence of administration talking points. Indeed, congressional aides find this timeline highly dubious.

The public schedule for the bridge, which can be found here, has the environmental approval scheduled for July 2012, just four months later than the administration’s “could” time frame. Construction is not slated to start until 2015, while the president’s jobs bill would spend most of its money in its first year.

But even if we grant the administration this tenuous connection between the bridge and the jobs bill, the larger issue is that Obama pointed to this bridge and suggested that Republicans are blocking its reconstruction with their opposition to his legislation. (“Mr. Boehner, Mr. McConnell, help us rebuild this bridge. . . . Pass this bill.”)

Nothing could be further from the truth. There is a long history of bipartisan support for action to fix this bridge, such as this 2009 study announced by Rep. Geoff Davis (R-Ky.) and then-Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio) to highlight the benefits of the bridge project.

Indeed, the biggest issue in starting the bridge reconstruction is not various approvals, but obtaining the nearly $3 billion needed to complete the reconstruction. There is not enough money under current highway formulas for the two states to do this by themselves. Davis, whose district contains the bridge, testified before Congress earlier this year about the need to solve the funding problem. “The Brent Spence Bridge is one example of a transportation mega-project that is critical infrastructure to the American economy,” he said.

The Pinocchio Test
This is symbolism run amok. The president certainly could have used the bridge to highlight the infrastructure crisis facing the United States. But he went a bridge too far by repeatedly suggesting that his jobs bill would immediately bring construction crews to this particular project — and that Republican lawmakers who long have pleaded for federal help on the bridge are now callously thwarting its repair.

Three Pinocchios

 

You are way off topic. The discussion here is about current bridge projects using Chinese construction companies, not about funding (or not) of future bridge projects.

barfo

 

Someone hacked the Washington Post!

I'm sure you don't like the facts being checked.

 

No, I don't mind that. But it isn't germane to this topic and does not provide any backup of your assertion in post 11.

Obama exaggerating about the potential effect of his jobs bill on a bridge in ohio has nothing to do with chinese being hired to build a bridge in california.

In fact, the article you quoted says the bridge in Ohio is badly needed and has bipartisan support, so I don't see how it fits with your claim that we are building bridges 'for the hell of it'.

barfo

 

Spending money for the hell of it. Big difference.

 

So you weren't talking about building bridges? Your comment was a complete non sequitur?

Keep digging, you'll get to China eventually.

barfo

 

It only makes sense, they built our railroads.