Clippers pg

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  1. notmuchgame

    notmuchgame JBB JustBBall Member

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    Arite, I said I would try to contribute to this forum so that's what I'm going to do [​IMG]

    anyways, how do you think the clippers should address the point guard position. Seeing that they are only 3 games out of the 8th spot (at least that's what someone told me), they will try to make a playoff run. So I feel it is important that they address the issue THIS YEAR, and not wait until the offseason...

    if so, who do you think would be a good fit via trade or free agency?

    Or do you think they should just stick with their mediocre (and that's just me being nice) core of point guards?
     
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    I don't know where he's projected in the draft,probably too high for the Clips,but someone like Jameer Nelson would be really good for them. He is an awesome PG. Fundamentally sound,really good decisions on the floor..athletic and quick enough to get past anyone and penetrate...awesome passer. He would be ideal for these guys..plus he plays a very good fast break style.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know where he's projected in the draft,probably too high for the Clips,but someone like Jameer Nelson would be really good for them. He is an awesome PG. Fundamentally sound,really good decisions on the floor..athletic and quick enough to get past anyone and penetrate...awesome passer. He would be ideal for these guys..plus he plays a very good fast break style.</div>

    notMuchgame meant THIS YEAR, but it's all good. I like Jaric a lot, I have sat down and watched the Clippers play a lot lately, and it looks as if he's a solid point guard and is a decent fit for the Clips. He hustles, plays good defense, and hits most of his open shots from what I have seen. However, IMO it is going to take more than Jaric if they want to make a playoff run. Down the stretch of games, I don't think he will be able to get the job done on a consistent basis. Overton is decent off the bench, but seems to make a lot of mistakes.

    Possible guys who I think could get the job done, and are possibly tradeable are Crawford and Jason Terry. Crawford has been rumored to be going somewhere, though that rumor calmed down a bit, and I have heard the Hawks are looking to throw Terry out there in the trade talks. Don't know if the Clips have what it takes to get one of the 2 though. Terry could help out, he may love to shoot that ball, but under a coach like Dunleavy he may understand his role on a team like the Clippers, and could end up producing well. He could easily be another deadly scorer on this Clipper ball club. Another name I would like to mention is Van Exel, I don't know if the Clippers are looking that way though, but they could really make a playoff run with him. Crawford is another choice, but like I said, I don't think the Clippers have what the Bulls would want for him.
     
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    well, i meant who should they acquire now, not during the off-season.

    Nonetheless, if we are talking about next year, I'm not sure if Nelson will be a good fit. He's more of a scoring point, and the clippers need a defensive minded guard. They already have plenty of guys who could fill em up...
     
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    If we're talking about this year, than nothing can really save them unless they go for a blockbuster. Jaric is ok, but he's not a playoff caliber point, at least not yet and not any time soon. This is just his 2nd year though, so he'll probly get better.

    I think they should go for Jason Terry. The sad thing is that they'd have to give up one of their big three, and probably even pick up someone from the Hawks to boot.

    A possible trade:
    Atl gets
    Quentin Richardson
    Keyon Dooling
    Chris Wilcox
    Glen Rice

    LA gets
    Jason Terry
    Dion Glover
    Theo Ratliffe
    draft pick

    I think LA would have to throw in someone else to even the cap discrepancy, but otherwise this deal could move. And it could quite easily happen before the trade deadline with the noise Terry and Ratliffe are making.
     
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    I felt Mark Jackson was just what they needed, but DAMMIT! he just got signed. The Clippers are very tallented and don't need any help on the points, and a guy like Mark is what they should be looking for.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">well, i meant who should they acquire now, not during the off-season.

    Nonetheless, if we are talking about next year, I'm not sure if Nelson will be a good fit. He's more of a scoring point, and the clippers need a defensive minded guard. They already have plenty of guys who could fill em up...</div>


    I dont think they need a defensive minded point as much as a fundamentally sound point..and thats Jameer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I felt Mark Jackson was just what they needed, but DAMMIT! he just got signed. The Clippers are very tallented and don't need any help on the points, and a guy like Mark is what they should be looking for.</div>

    Funny, Mark was just the guy I had in mind too. I'm surprised more teams didn't come after him before now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">Funny, Mark was just the guy I had in mind too. I'm surprised more teams didn't come after him before now.</div>


    yea but that would just be short term. I don't think Action got much left in the tank. What happens when he's gone?
     
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    I like Jaric as a PG...they should continue to be patient wit him...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">yea but that would just be short term. I don't think Action got much left in the tank. What happens when he's gone?</div>

    Ofcourse it's short term, the guys 38 years old. All they need right now is a guy who can play at the spot to get them through this season, and then I see them drafting an actual PG ( unlike Dooling and Jaric, who are really 2 guards )
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">If we're talking about this year, than nothing can really save them unless they go for a blockbuster. Jaric is ok, but he's not a playoff caliber point, at least not yet and not any time soon. This is just his 2nd year though, so he'll probly get better.

    I think they should go for Jason Terry. The sad thing is that they'd have to give up one of their big three, and probably even pick up someone from the Hawks to boot.

    A possible trade:
    Atl gets
    Quentin Richardson
    Keyon Dooling
    Chris Wilcox
    Glen Rice

    LA gets
    Jason Terry
    Dion Glover
    Theo Ratliffe
    draft pick

    I think LA would have to throw in someone else to even the cap discrepancy, but otherwise this deal could move. And it could quite easily happen before the trade deadline with the noise Terry and Ratliffe are making.</div>

    Ahhh! I see you've re-visited your previous trade proposal between the Clipps and Hawks, with a few tweeks. I don't think this is necessarily a bad deal for either team, but Ratliff doesn't quite fit. The Clippers have a prospective top 5 center in Kaman, so I don't think Ratliff would be useful to them. I'm also not very fond of them getting rid of Q, because I still think that there's a decent chance that he'll resign. That being said, I would probably do a deal of Richardson, Wilcox and Dooling/Ely?/Pick?/cash for Terry, and either Glover + another player or Terry and Atlanta's lottery pick. No Less.

    I was very dissapointed that they didn't make a stronger push for a guy like Charlie Ward, though I understand he wanted to play with a team that had a chance of making a playoff run. There have also been others out there who could be/have been had like Brent Barry (not a true PG, but a good fit), Moochie Norris, Travis Best, and even Rod Strickland. I'd really like to see Barry come back to LA, maybe an Ely/2nd round pick would get the deal done?

    For the future, I love the prospect of adding Jameer Nelson to this team. He's a very intelligent floor leader, actually, he's very similar to Mark Jackson in his younger days. Probably not a huge scoring threat on the pro level, but very competent. He gets to the basket whenever he wants to and knows how to create space and open up passing lanes on the court. I can take one more year of this team missing the playoffs if it means having the opportunity to add a guy like Nelson to the fold.
     

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