Congratulations, Insurance Companies and Big Pharm

You've won. Health Care reform and a possible National Health Care initiative by the government is dead. Again. Just like in the 90's, you successfully squashed any and all attempts are reigning in your ultimate power in deciding the lives and deaths of millions of Americans. Insurance companies continue to rape massive profits from the American people while providing less and less coverage, and Big Pharm continues its stranglehold on the Health Culture of this country by promoting/forcing more and more pills down our throats to "make our lives better" (and their shareholder's dividend fatter).

Fairly soon, Health Care in this country will be a privilage of the rich, and the middle class/poor will have to rely on the butcher shop scraps of the health care industry and whatever third-rate medications that the industry delegates to the generic black market.

Once again, Money Talks and we all pay.

 

Um, you mean they lost, right? Both were supporters of the bill because they were paid off by the Obama Administration.

The winners tonight were the American People who don't have a bureaucrat standing between them and their doctor deciding what kind of healthcare we can receive.

 

why do you hate america

 

A people forced to serve their government isn't America. It's the other way around.

 

BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I wonder what the weather is like in your fantasy world.

Bureaucrats don't just work for the government you know.

 

Please highlight which parts of the healthcare bills that would have made overall healthcare spending decrease. Please detail the points in the bills that would have resulted in reduced insurance company profits.

 

The current bill? None, because the Democrats are no better, they compromised and bargained away everything that could have been beneficial to the American people and what we are left with is a flat-out gift to Big Insurance and Big Pharm. Maybe it's a blessing that it'll be killed once and for all.

There's no one in government anymore that looks out for the Common American. It's all about whose lining their pocket, and that goes for both parties. Us true progressives have at least one thing in common with the Tea Baggers: government doesn't represent us anymore, and hasn't for a long time. All we get is bullshit talk and no action, at least none for us, plenty for Big Corp and Fat Cats.

 

So we agree that you starting this thread was completely retarded.

 

Acirema?

 

The bill can still pass as is from the senate, and really the Dems have no other option. If they run from the reform they got nothing.

 

racecar

 

rep'd

That is a very profound saying.

 

There's nothing now. My OP was a lament that nothing good came from this whole endeavor. It was a waste of time to distract us from the real issue, the further inverting of the financial pyramid and the continued movement of the United States to a corporate-dominated totaliarian state like in "Rollerball".

 

I disagree.

First, the health care bill may still go thru as the socialists have planned for.

Second, there's a reason why the majority of the population do not support this bill and rather want real health care reform. This election confirms that. There are so many better ways to reform health care- why not use one of them?

 

Funny. That's exactly who bureaucrats work for. As for the fantasy world in which I lived, it was Washington, DC, for almost a decade. Do you have any idea what kind of bubble that place is? Well-meaning people who want to make a difference get captured by the system all the time.

The bottom line is that my health and the care I receive is none of the government's business. It's between me and my physician. If I want a second opinion, I'll ask for it.

 

This is me asking for a second opinion from the health insurance companies.

 

There are plenty of health insurance companies. If you don't like the one you have, change it. There's only one government. When they say "no", that's it. You can't even pay for it on your own.

 

BP, I don't know what's happened to you in the last few months but you've become uber-polarized.

If you think socialists would support the bill as it is, then I think you need to go back and study up. There is barely anything in that bill that would support a socialist. How about a little more fact checking and a little less name calling?

 

Why? That bill wasn't only the first step to a single-payer system, but it built the slippery slope. All you have to do is play out the end game. Think chess not checkers.