OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    800,000 deaths, just in the US. This is according to expert professional medical personnel, who are resigning in record numbers due to being overworked.

    The conspiracy talk is rubbish.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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  3. tester551

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    I didn't make any conspiracy claim.

    Yes, Covid is real & it's taken ~800k people.... that is unfortunate.
    Vaccines are available to anyone who wants them. The vaccines are effective for a few months at a time.

    My post was commenting on the hysteria surrounding the Omicron variant. Yes, it is HIGHLY transmissible - but is very mild based on the available data. At this point, it's not something to be overly concerned about.
     
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    Except the whole "hospitals at capacity " thing... We should be concerned about any strain of covid-19 until there is ample evidence that we shouldn't.

    We don't want to let our guard down only to have people dying in streets if it's as deadly as other strains... And there isn't enough evidence yet to assume it's less dangerous.
     
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    You clearly didn’t catch the context of the conversation, as usual.
     
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    Actually, what we know is that it reproduces in the lung tissue slowly compared to the other strains - but until we know how the immune system deals with it - we can not tell if it is less severe. If the immune system can not handle it - all it tells you is that it will kill you slower.

    So, less severe is an assumption based on replication in human tissue - but not verified without the other half of the question.

    So, if you have a virus that is 70 times more likely to spread between hosts - but only 1/10 of the speed to replicate within the host - you still get much worse death rate.

    So, it is a good idea to be careful with this strain until more is known. Simple math, really.
     
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    No it's not. It's all about the danger of even a small percentage of cases requiring hospitalization or resulting in serious complications and death when that percentage is applied to a huge number of cases.

    Everything points to the omicron variant producing a tsunami of cases unlike anything we've seen. It's estimated to be 3X more transmissible than delta, and delta was about twice as contagious as earlier variants. From the acceleration in cases in Britain, which leads us by 3-4 weeks in the incidence of omicron, they are already estimating 200K new cases PER DAY, with the possibility of reaching a million new cases PER DAY within a week or two. Most may be very mild and some even asymptomatic, but even a half a percent of serious cases applied to such huge numbers absolutely crushes hospitals and already overtaxed medical staffs when it's applied to numbers that huge.
     
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    Oh The horror!
     
  11. e_blazer

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    Having a heart attack and finding out there's no room for you at the hospital would be a pretty big horror if it's you having the heart attack.
     
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    I know. Referring to an earlier post. I agree with you.
     
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    So am I wrong to assume that if I haven’t had Covid yet, I’ll probably get this variant?
     
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    I saw one epidemiologist who broke it into 3 categories:

    1. Naïve immune system (not vaccinated and no prior infection) - Almost certain.
    2. Fully vaccinated or recent Covid infection) - Highly likely to get infected, low chance of serious disease.
    3. Fully vaccinated and boosted - Unlikely to get infected, even less chance of serious disease if you get a breakthrough case.
     
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    Thank you.

    I got vaccinated in May so it looks like I should be booking that booster shot soon.
     
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    Booster kicked my ass. Wasn’t expecting it. 3.5 days of feeling like shit. Still glad I did it and many people have zero side effects.
     
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    I was in the zero side effects category. My wife had a low grade fever with some body aches for a day. Nothing Tylenol couldn’t deal with.
     
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    CDC issues grim forecast warning weekly COVID cases will jump by 55% to 1.3 MILLION by Christmas Day and that deaths will surge by 73% to 15,600 a week as Omicron becomes dominant strain
    • The CDC warns that there will be as many as 1.3 million new COVID-19 cases over the week of Christmas, and a 73% increase in Covid deaths by early January
    • The Omicron COVID-19 variant has been sequenced 241 times in 37 U.S. states, including Washington D.C., as the variant continues to spread nationwide
    • The CDC reported Tuesday that the variant now accounts for 3% of sequenced of cases - a seven-fold increased from last week, although in NY and NJ the variant is believed to be behind 13% of cases
    • It is feared that a 'tidal wave' of Omicron is headed for US shores, with the UK recording its biggest one day case total ever on Thursday- 78,610 - with 10,000 of those cases confirmed as Omicron
    • One of the largest US outbreaks of the Omicron variant to date is believed to have occurred at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, where almost all 930 cases over the past week are believed to be of the variant
    • All of the confirmed Omicron cases in the Cornell University are among people who are fully vaccinated, and some of them are in people who've also had boosters
    • Cases in the U.S. have increased by 46% over the past two weeks, and deaths are up 40% - as the country eclipsed 800,000 total deaths and 50 million total cases earlier this week
    • In the UK, cases continue to grow, though deaths caused by the virus have actually decreased over the past two weeks
    • A recent South African study finds that Omicron spread faster than other virus variants, but is 20% less likely to cause hospitalization
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-cases-jump-55-1-3-MILLION-Christmas-Day.html
     
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