Could this bring us Josh Smith?

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  1. TheMo

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    The Bulls are looking to sign Ben Gordon and clear cap space. Everyone has been looking at Nocioni but if you think about the Bulls also have Kirk Hinrich who plays the same position as #1 overall pick Derrick Rose. They might be amiable to moving him, especially after he had a lackluster season last year. So I am thinking that we could trade KVH + Swift + Ager + GS #1 pick + Cash for him. Then turn around and trade Hinrich + SWAT + 2nd round pick in a S&T for Josh Smith. I know ATL did something similar with Sheed and the whole Detroit thing. Feel free to poke holes in this, was just a random thought.
     
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    if we trade for kirk we can turn around and retrade him with another player... we need to wait a certain amount of days...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 30 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if we trade for kirk we can turn around and retrade him with another player... we need to wait a certain amount of days...</div>
    Oh okay so ATL did wait sometime I guess. I couldn't remember but I thought they gave him to the Pistons really quick. I'll take your word on it though.
     
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    No we could trade him right away like the Atlanta/Detroit Rasheed Wallace deal a couple years back, the problem is, however, that Hinrich would have to be traded by himself without any other players added.
     
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    i thought u cant trade it rite away with another player? it has to be by himself? rite? like simmons? we cant package him... just trade him 1 for 1
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoopskidd5 @ Jul 30 2008, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Atlanta only had Rasheed for one game (it was actually against us) and then they turned around and dealt him to Detroit.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1739128</div>

    but he wasnt package was he? he was by himself
     
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    Anybody think this is a fair trade? And if we can't package anything with Hinrich would ATL take him back in a straight up swap for Josh Smith? It would certainly be a better solution to their point guard problems then the shot happy, defenseless Bibby was last season.
     
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    Yeah thats what I said, just like Simmons they cant be accompanied with any other outgoing players in a trade. Not necessarily 1 for 1, we can take multiple players and/or picks back assuming the other team isn't in the same situation.
     
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    As much as I LOVE Sean I would do that trade in a heartbeat.
     
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    Why not do a 3 way?
     
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    That's what I was thinking. I think it would be more likely be a three team trade in this situation as opposed to two separate deals.
     
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    I really doubt anything like that happens

    why wouldnt Atlanta just pay Josh Smith? Whos asking for the same as Hinrich is making, but is twice as good
     
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    But just for fun

    Chicago gets Stro, KVH, and Boone(cash to buy out KVH)
    Atlanta gets Hinrich, Sean, future 2nd and GS pick
    NJ gets Josh Smith signed at 6 years 65 million and Ced Simmons
     
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    Because they've had ownership problems for years and aren't prone to shelling out big contracts..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MarionBarberThe4th @ Jul 30 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really doubt anything like that happens

    why wouldnt Atlanta just pay Josh Smith? Whos asking for the same as Hinrich is making, but is twice as good</div>

    I thought there were talks that he didn't want to go back there because of the coach?

    And I'm sure he can't be too happy about Childress leaving.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Because they've had ownership problems for years and aren't prone to shelling out big contracts</div>

    Hinrich has 4 years left at 10+ mil per.

    Smith is asking for 11-12 a year.

    they might have problems, but theyre not Isiah........

    I wish they would do such a deal though, I hope im wrong
     
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    Im not neccesarilly saying they would go for this trade and take Hinrich's money, Im just sayin Im sure theyre hesitant about paying Smith what the money he expects to get..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I thought there were talks that he didn't want to go back there because of the coach?

    And I'm sure he can't be too happy about Childress leaving.</div>


    I heard rather than take the deal(s) theyve been offering him, hed rather play one year for the QO and then become unrestricted next year

    If he sticks to that, maybe we do have a shot. Maybe Atlanta is afraid of losing him and makes a deal. But Im not getting my hopes up bc all these guys seem to re-sign.



    Also, Krstic was a chip we could of used. w/o him I dont know how realistic any deal is
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>m not neccesarilly saying they would go for this trade and take Hinrich's money, Im just sayin Im sure theyre hesitant about paying Smith what the money he expects to get.</div>

    Gotcha. So maybe if were willing to give up picks + Sean and/or Boone we could at least make it interesting.

    But it sounds like RodKi tried w/ Krstic + others and have since given up
     

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