Crawford to NY Rumors Heating Up

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  1. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There appears to be more to the projected Allan Houston news story as first reported by Dave D'Alessandro of the Star-Ledger than previously thought. Knicks President Isiah Thomas is in Chicago, but the Pre-Draft Camp at the Moody Bible Institute isn't the only thing on his mind. We've recently learned that talks regarding restricted free agent Jamal Crawford are elevating, a player Thomas has previously coveted during the season. If the Knicks do let Houston's contract go to the expansion Bobcats (who would most likely later trade him to another team such as the Nuggets), the plan is to then follow up by getting Crawford to play alongside Stephon Marbury at the 2 spot. </div>
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  2. Tha Franksta

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    I highly doubt Charlotte will take Allan Houston, which NY will only have MLE and Chicago can match that so I don't see Crawford going anywhere.
     
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    Houston? I love his shooting and all, but he's 1 dimensional as they come, but of course, we do need his shooting. We should really give the young guys one more year, yeah Crawford was extremely inconsistent, but he did switch from the 1 to the 2 and this was his first year as a full-time starter.
     
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    I think this could be good, but for NY mostly, not really beneficial for the Bulls' if it were to happen. Crawford brings some ego and toughness to the table as well as the fact how talented he is. However you must also take into account that he's more like a Combo Guard and that Hinrich seems to be playing PG instead, for and to Crawford. I wouldn't want this to take place, also Houston is old and sort of battered(injured).
     
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    Are you guys willing to trade Chandler at all? Or is he a definete keeper?
     
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    I think we should keep Chandler. After all we did trade him for Brand
     
  7. Moo2K4

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    I wouldn't trade Crawford for Houston. Houston can't do anything but stand and shoot. Crawford is an extremely athletic and talented young guard who still has room to get better. I don't trade him unless something worthwhile comes around.
     
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    yeah i dont like the trade idea
    because not only is he old and injured
    but he is not a leader on the court.We need some
    to hand the ball to at the final seconds of the game.
    Houston wont be a good fit. He is a rather good role player,In this case you need a star player which the BULLS dont have.
     
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    I'll admitt that HOuston isnt a superstar, but Houston is not a joke. When Healthy there is no way I would want Crawford over Houston. Houston did lead the Knicks to the finals in 99. I can understand if his contract is a problem or if his injury concerns you, but its kinda funny to question his skills. I understand wanting young players over older ones like Houston because the Bulls arent going to be contending for a championship in the next year or two, so I also dont think it would be a good trade for the bulls.
     
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    I agree Houston has on of the best looking shots in the NBA
    but the Bulls need a player that can contribute more than just on the
    offensive end.I dont know if Houston led the Knicks think there was
    alot more help coming from someone other than Houston.(Spree,LJ,Ward,Camby)
     
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    houston isn't the answer really for the bulls right now, and crawford at this point in his career isn't the answer for the bulls either (his knee injury really hurt him). there has to be a better way to go than to get rid of the best young player we have than to receive a great shooter that is injury prone for him.
     
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    I dont wanna trade any of our young players because I'm gonna feel terrible once they have this great breakout season
     
  13. Dwyane_Wade_3

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    I think we should give all of our younger players one more year to produce. I mean Tyson Chandler was looking good before he injured his back and Kirk Hinrich came on strong twards the end of the year. If we get either Deng or Igudala, I feel that all of the pieces will be in place for the Bulls to make a playoff run. The fact they are in the East does not hurt either.
     
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    I think that crawford has become sort of a expendable peace for the bulls hinrick is a very capable point guard and with houston at the 2 that would be a pretty good back court. Plus houston would be better than crawford for the bulls because although crawford is the bulls leader in points per game he shoots a horrible percentage from the field.

    Not to mention that crawfords ego doesnt really help the bulls either a young team tring to develope does not need a point guard that is playing out of position with an ego. Houston would give them a good free throw shooter a great three point shooter and a guy that is not at all selfish.

    Then there is the bad part. Houston has way to big a contract for a one dementianal player, but he could attract much more trade options then crawford would and with so many guards on the market they could possible attract them to the bulls espcially guards that are looking to be a superstar and have there own team possible you could get a vince carter or someone and move him to the 2 position. Also the fact that it is chicago home of the great michael jordan a great 2 guard would definitly like to go there.
     
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    I am going to have to disagree with you. Alan Houston is just a threat one way on offense. With his injury, he has turned into a spot-up shooter only. Plus, he is lacking on the defensive end. You must remember, Jamal Crawford has only been playing for Skiles for a little more than half a season, and he is getting used to playing a new postion. He may buy into Skiles system, he may not, but you have to give it more than a half a year. If nothing good comes from Crawford, either trade him midway, or after next season. But we need to wait another year before we re-build AGIAN.
     
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    Personally, I believe trading Crawford away may be a big mistake and it may not. It all depends on who the Bulls can pick up for him, and, who the Bulls will select in the draft, if they do select. Right now they have a lot of teams after that third pick position in the draft and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to deal Crawford and the pick for a bigger star.

    The reason for the Bulls' problems is that they suffer on defense and are inconsistant on offense. Hinrich will be a great point in the coming years, we all know that. If Curry continues to work on his shooting and consistancy on defense, then the Bulls will have a pretty dominant center to add. If the Bulls keep Crawford, I'm sure as many say he will do well once he adjusts to the shooting guard spot. The only key spots missing to the Bulls right now are a reliable SF and PF. If the Bulls can grab both of those, they will have good starting line up to go along with a good amount of bench players.

    They'd have Davis, Williams, and Chandler coming off the bench. To me, that's a great bench right there. The only other problem for the Bulls is that they really need a point guard that can fill in off the bench. Brunson will not be able to put up decent numbers on offense or defense regularly, that's my opinion.
     
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    Crawford is great, however I like Hinrich better, he seems to be the one who delivers as the SG for Crawford. As much as I like and know how good Crawford is, I think he is holding you back, he hogs the ball at times and makes bad decisions, rebuild.
     
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    Yes, Kirk Hinrich is a better player. He is becoming consistant and an all around complete player. Look at his triple-double game. Rebounding over quite a few guys well over 6 to 8 inches taller than he is, not easy. He can block shots, score, pass very well, he is a very intelligent player on the court. Within time, I expect Kirk to be one of the top guys in the NBA. He certainly passed all expectations.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">As much as I like and know how good Crawford is, I think he is holding you back, he hogs the ball at times and makes bad decisions, rebuild.</div>

    How many times would you like to see this team rebuild before we get a snif of the playoffs. Jamal Crawford is a young player who is getting used to a new system and a new position. If he does not do well after a full year, then I agree with you and rebuild. But I feel we have a very solid backcourt in Hinrich and Crawford. Say Kirk gets injured and we trade away Jamal. Who would be are starting point? If Jamal stays, he could just fill in. You just can't give up on a player who has one bad year. I would rather wait and see.
     
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    Honestly, I thought he had a pretty decent year. He posted the most points per game on average.
     

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