Croshere Dealt To Dallas For Daniels

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Croshere Dealt To Dallas For Daniels 5th July, 2006 - 10:30 pm Indiana Star - The Indiana Pacers have traded forward, Austin Croshere, to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for guard, Marquis Daniels. Croshere has averaged 7.5 points and 4.3 rebounds during his career with the Pacers. Daniels averaged 9.3 points, 3.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists in three seasons with the Mavericks. The deal can't become official until July 12 when teams can complete trades and free agent signings.</div>

 

thats horrible dont they have van horny??and who is gonna be their SG??

 

Damn I was just about to post this. But isn't Croshere's contract horrible? Well, I guess this means Van Horn is as good as gone. But I do like the trade for both teams.For Dallas, it opens playing time for Maurice Ager, who they are very high on (as am I). He will be awesome for Dallas. Plus Croshere is an ok role player.For Indiana, they dump a big contract and add a young guard who has a solid all around game. But, does this move mean Freddie Jones isn't re-signing?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fabolous @ Jul 5 2006, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>thats horrible dont they have van horny??and who is gonna be their SG??</div>Van Horn is a free agent.Maurice Ager.

 

Van Horn sucks and I didn't see Daniels get much playing time in Dallas anyway.

 

If they're doing this to get more PT for the rookie, then I guess it's a good move. IMO they could've gotten better for Marquis Daniels though.

 

I like Daniels, good defensive SG for Indiana right there. He's also young, too. Nothing much more to say about this trade right here imo, everything's been pretty much said. Van Horn will obviously not return with the team.

 

woah..imo dallas could have gotten more for daniels, but croshere isnt that bad of a player,croshere is a spark off of the bench or he could even take van horn's spot if he leaves,although im not sure if austin croshere plays power forward or not but all in all hes a solid contributor who i think will play well under coach avery johnson

 

Dallas got ripped. End of story.

 

This is obviously taking care of our backup pf spot that will be left open by Van Horn. Least Croshere can spread the floor unlike Van Horn did for us in the playoffs. But I don't get why everyone is saying whose our sg and why we did it. Daniels barely played for us, he was the odd man out in our swing rotation and everyone knew he would be traded in the offseason. No surprize, just shocked it happened so fast and for who. I think this means James is coming to Dallas. No way Dallas pulls the deal without knowing James is coming in.Also, Croshere's deal ain't bad, to whoever said that. It's up after this year, along with Stackhouse. It's a smart move business wise as were about to extend both Howard and Dirk to long term deals. Don't forget we also added Terry's new deal.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dallas got ripped. End of story.</div>How so? We got out of a longer, bigger deal with Daniels who barely played for us. Croshere fills a need, Daniels didn't.

 

hmm, nice trade for Indy, although now they have Danny Granger, Shawne Williams and Marquis Daniels. How do the salaries work out in this one??

 

You've got to be f*cking kidding me. Why would they give up their young SG for an old stiff who will back up Dirk? Am I missing something here?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 5 2006, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You've got to be f*cking kidding me. Why would they give up their young SG for an old stiff who will back up Dirk? Am I missing something here?</div>you are missing that van horn is on his way out and croshere takes his place but i still feel as though indiana got the better end of the deal

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You've got to be f*cking kidding me. Why would they give up their young SG for an old stiff who will back up Dirk? Am I missing something here?</div> I basically explained why, luxury tax reasons and Daniels did not fit on the team. He was inconsistent and did not play to his contract. Croshere has one year, and fills a need since we have no one behind Dirk. We have plenty of swings here.

 

^You are right, the Mavs gave up a young player for an older one...but your missing the big picture.As Rok said, we filled a need with this...Marquis was just taking up bench space, and would be taking playing time away from Ager.Without Daniels it'll give more playing time for Harris and Ager, and clears some space for James to come in as well.Croshere is a vet that's been around a long time, and is much more consistent than KVH was last year for us...all this trade did was upgrade our bench by getting a better version of KVH, and allowing Ager, who'll be a better fit for the team, to actually get playing time.

 

As a Mavericks fan (MFFL) I think I speak for all of us when I say F**K Austin Croshere F**K F**K F**K him damn him to hell. What was Donn Nelson thinking? We could have got Croshere and Pollard for Finley last off-season and saved money then it would have been okay. But not for Quis. Marquis is a Solid 1, 2 or 3. We probably could have got Harrington if we included someone else. Another reason I'm Pissed, that means 2 things we're not getting Mike James + Mike James 2 Houston. which gives them whut they need in a PG and they're in our division. DAMN Horrible Trade Period. :bat: :aggressive: :brucelee: :no1: :ranting: :thumbdn1: :ranting: :no1: :ranting:

 

I don't think any of you realize Maurice Ager is ready for backup minutes already. He is an NBA-ready combo guard who can light up a scoreboard and provide a lot of energy. If Daniels stayed on this team, it would be tough to fit Ager into the rotation. I like this trade. Croshere is Van Horn basically, and Ager will end up being a better player than Daniels, IMO.

 

Nice point about making room for Ager, but I think it's more of a cap dump with Daniels' contract. Also, I think it leads to Mavs signing Mike James, but no word on that. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As a Mavericks fan (MFFL) I think I speak for all of us when I say F**K Austin Croshere F**K F**K F**K him damn him to hell. What was Donn Nelson thinking? We could have got Croshere and Pollard for Finley last off-season and saved money then it would have been okay. But not for Quis. Marquis is a Solid 1, 2 or 3. We probably could have got Harrington if we included someone else. Another reason I'm Pissed, that means 2 things we're not getting Mike James + Mike James 2 Houston. which gives them whut they need in a PG and they're in our division. DAMN Horrible Trade</div> Um, I don't hate this trade at all. No way the Pacers take Michael Finley's 50 million contract when we were going to cut him and make him a free agent. That would make zero sense for the Pacers. Are you serious, Al Harrington for Daniels? Let's not overrate Daniels, he wasn't going to play much here, wasn't it obvious all of last season. He's injury prone, inconsistent and had a large contract to boot. Also, how does this mean Mike James to Houston? We still have the MLE and the offer is still on the table. We weren't signing and trading for him, that deal got nixed at the start of free agency. How about you think about the deal before you start bashing it.

 

I have alot of faith in Mo. It's the Value we got for a up and coming player. Croshere doesn't bring anything to the table no defense, No Rebounding, Big Contract probably, Injuries I'd much would have rather Us sign Kevin Pittsnogle, if we needed a back up for Dirk. with still paying Finnley, Christie, and whutshisface I can't think right know I'm frustrated. no good comes out of this trade for the Mavericks. Maurice Ager better come ready Cus' he's trying-Out for the Fans this season he just replaced a Crowd Favorite. AND no Mike James I was waiting for that he's 1 of my fav Combo Guards. Dammit.First Yea Indiana was gonna gonna take that deal we were the ones that had to accept it. Next, not's Overrate Harrington. Marquis' contract isn't that big. + this means James to Houston because Like his agent said he's not accepting the MLE, We'd have to trade to get him + he like Houston Already.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's the Value we got for a up and coming player. Croshere doesn't bring anything to the table no defense, No Rebounding, Big Contract probably, Injuries I'd much would have rather Us sign Kevin Pittsnogle, if we needed a back up for Dirk. with still paying Finnley, Christie, and whutshisface I can't think right know I'm frustrated.</div> Up and coming player? Not for the Mavs. Daniels has a bigger contract then Croshere, so I don't get that comment. And I laugh when you say injuries, when Daniels is more injury prone then Croshere. Then you mention Kevin Pittsnogle, a guy not known for rebounding, defense and hasn't played one minute in the NBA. What the F*ck man? Good news for you, is Croshere should be a one year player, allowing as I've said for Cubes to stay under the luxury tax and make room for bigger contracts. I can't believe your frustrated losing a player who didn't even play much under Avery. I'm expecting mavsfan to have a bigger seizure though.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>First Yea Indiana was gonna gonna take that deal we were the ones that had to accept it. Next, not's Overrate Harrington. Marquis' contract isn't that big. + this means James to Houston because Like his agent said he's not accepting the MLE, We'd have to trade to get him + he like Houston Already.</div>No they weren't. Don't you think Mavs tried to trade his contract? They even said afterwards after cutting Fin, they were unable to find a taker. Provide me a source saying the deal was on the table and it was ours for the taking. I was watching that situation closely being as I became a Mavs fan because of Finley. The only deal that you can say came close was one with the Wolves involving Cassell as he publicly stated as a Clipper, he almost became a Mav. All that Croshere deal was a rumor.Quis does have a big contract, with years added on. Croshere has one large year and were out of it. It's obvious Daniels makes much as he was just traded for Croshere's deal.How is Houston getting James when all they offer is the MLE as well. If he's not accepting the MLE, no one is going to pay him. Because the teams under the cap aren't after him.

 

This is a catch 22 for the Mavericks. While Croshere is a good perimeter shooter, I think they could have gotten a much better deal for the young stud Daniels. Cro is a weak defender and that was one of Daniels strong points. However I think Maurice Ager who BTW was my favorite player in all of college basketball, will be a good solid NBA player. He is a good shooter and likes to play defense. I think where the Mavs got him he was a steal and these minutes will help him progress in his NBA career.