Dame & Curry

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They're just very different players who are only compared because of their position and because of their ability to shoot the deep deep deep ball. But you're right, Curry has a different style that worked perfectly in that system. I think he would have struggled mightily if he had been in Dame's position. Dame can generate his own offense, while I'm not sure Curry can do that quite as well.
     
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    Maybe. Curry looked pretty good doing that at the tail end of the Mark Jackson administration, before Kerr came in and revamped everything. And last year, there was really no one opening anything up for him--no Durant, no Thompson. Wiggins was his most talented scoring teammate (Green is more talented overall, but not as a scorer). I think Curry leading the league in scoring despite basically being the alpha and omega for that offense makes the idea that he can't create for himself as well as Lillard at least suspect.
     
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    Great point. Curry sure struggled mightily last season without Durant and Klay to lean on... couldn't generate any offense on his own. [/snark]

    Back in reality land, he led the league in scoring again despite facing constant double teams as the W's 2nd best offensive threat was Wiggins. While doing so he bested Dame in TS% 66% to 62%

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  4. All Net

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    You missed my point. I wasn’t arguing that Lillard is better than Curry. I was pointing out that the edge in high scoring games that he holds over Curry is even more impressive when you realize he did it while playing far fewer games than Curry.
     
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    Except that it wasn't far fewer. It is basically one less season, once Curry's injuries are accounted for.
     
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    Dame needs to bring home a ring. Period.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Yeah, that's pretty fair. Dame entered the league as a ball-dominant pick and roll guard, and never really changed. The downside of having a star who has always played on backwater teams like Weber St and Portland and even down to AAU is he never had to learn to play off ball, because no coach in his right mind would take the ball out of his hands to give it up to guys like Aminu or Plumlee.

    If Harden were shorter, didn't hunt for fouls as much, and had deeper range he'd basically be Lillard.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens next year to both guys if the league follows through on the talk about punishing offensive players for hunting for fouls. Harden is in his own category in this respect, but Dame is probably the best of the rest at it. In much the way Curry is the most elite shooter, with Dame again being best of the rest.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Well, yeah. Jordan would've won 5 instead, and talk of him being GOAT would probably be a little less predominant. So much of his legend is tied to him going 6-0 in the finals.

    Clyde would be the unanimous greatest Blazer of all time with that ring. Probably still beating out Dame no matter what Dame does, short of winning his own ring.
     
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    82 games is far fewer.
     
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    It's one season's worth, not the three that you framed it as. Given the magnitude of scoring stats being discussed, one season is not much of a difference.
     
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    ...& given that Dame has never had to share the scoring opportunities with a talent like Durant let alone Klay makes whatever point he thinks he's making ridiculous. Context matters.

    My initial reaction about offseason homer nonsense wasn't just to his silly head in the sand post but to the claims of several prior. Hell, Boom stated plainly "Dame is better."

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    Sooo happy to have Dame as a Blazer, but lets not kid ourselves.
    Steph is better.
     
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    Hyperbole is the greatest thing ever, better even than Dame.
     
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    Steph is better. He literally changed the game. Lillard has not. Lillard is a HOF player no doubt. Curry better shooter, better ball handler. Both below average defenders (although curry gets a little lack of credit IMO). Both are 10/10 leaders. Dame is the clutchest of the clutch and possibly the best ever. Different teams and teammates make a difference of course but edge to Curry.
     

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